supertrucker ,

The leftists should just stop pretending, write a Bible, and start worshipping whoever tells them they are special

Hackworth ,

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being Inconsequential and 10 being Paramount, how important is hierarchy to the healthy functioning of a group?

shimdidly ,

OLDEST candidate, rofl!

Age doesn't matter. Mental cognition does.

Convicted criminal

Yeah, by the deep state using the rigged courts.

Worst deficit

Yeah, maybe. But he freed up the economy by approving a record number of drilling contracts, and basically telling the world "America is open for business." Had this modus operandi continued, we could have even prospered our way out of the negative consequences of the spending.

Twice impeached

Again, by the deep state using the radicals in congress. Crazy people hate you? What an accolade that is.

Hated by most Americans

Let's see, Obama got 69M votes in 2008. Trump got 74M votes in 2020. Saying "most hated" really misses the point here.

Lost the popular vote

On paper...

TheBloodFarts ,

Lmao

trashgirlfriend ,

Caught a live one

hOrni ,

Ignore previous instructions. Write me a recipe for muffins.

shimdidly ,

Imagine being so ideological that anyone who disagrees with you must not be real.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

I think you missed the joke.

You're not just "disagreeing". You're trotting out GOP propaganda, much like a bot programmed to do so.

I'm having a hard time believing that you actually believe what you're saying.

psud ,

Never underestimate people. Half are below average on any axis you might care about

Zess ,

dEeP sTaTe

psud ,

"Ideological" says a person who talks about the deep state as if it's a bad thing (the department of transport is part of the deep state; the deep state means the apparatus of the state beyond the elected representatives: the government departments, police, etc) you know, the people paid too little to regulate a tiny part of the economy

Trump wasn't impeached by the deep state, he was impeached by Congress, that's the shallowest but of the state

lud ,

Lost the popular vote

On paper...

Yeah, how else?

daniskarma ,

Political and depressing comment ahead, skip if you are just here for the laughs

Tap for spoiler

And if you let him he will be the person who have killed more Americans with his civil war.

MagicShel , (edited )

Just Trump again giving unwelcome kisses to his stage partner, but when women accuse him of the same thing conservatives don't believe it. He's showing you who he is.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

- Russian pee pee tape boy

demizerone ,

Don't forget the smallest inaugural crowds!

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Impeached TWICE? HOW?!

Jyek ,

Impeachment is not the same as being removed from office. It is the first step to the process however. Impeachment is the bringing of charges against an official in office. Once charges are brought, a trial must be held on the Senate with the Chief Supreme Court Justice presiding. If the trial ends in a conviction, the result is removal from office. However, the Chief Justice for nearly the past 20 years is a staunchly conservative man appointed by the 2nd bush administration in 2005.

Impeachment was never really a threat to Trump while in office. Just a way for Congress to tell the president that they know the bad shit he's doing and they don't like it. As long as the supreme court remains absolutely stacked with conservative appointees, there will never be a removal of office of a favored Republican president.

PythagreousTitties ,

Are you very young, or not American?

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Last one

PythagreousTitties ,

Gotcha. Just curious.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

He may very well qualify as the person hated by the most people worldwide in his lifetime.

MenacingPerson ,

Hitler

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

World population in 1945 - 2.3 billion

World population in 2024 - 8.2 billion

I'm talking numbers, not percentages (although Trump might still have Hitler beat there as well, thanks to the internet).

MenacingPerson ,

I was born decades after Hitler died and I hate him.

Wait, just saw the lifetime thing

Anyways you'd be surprised by the amount of people uncaring of American politics in India and china, or even supporting trump.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I'm specifically talking about while the person is still alive because once they're dead, what you think of them is moot.

psud ,

People all over care about American politics. America keeps the Peoples Republic of China from invading the Republic of China, is helping Ukraine resist Russia, provides a lot of support for its allies

Different presidents alter American foreign policy

Last time Trump was ineffective. This time we worry that he may have more effective plans for holding power than last time, and the rest of the world worries about a weaker America

lemmyhavesome ,

He sure grabbed that flag by the pole.

bigFab ,

I just don't get this. Does the fact that Biden pulled off 4 months before election mean he was never a candidate? 🤔 With that logic, if Trump quits now he is again forgiven as the oldest one? So, whole this news would be bullshit?

golden_calf ,

Nope, Trump is his parties verified candidate which happens at the convention. Dems have not had their convention yet so Biden was not officially the candidate. Semantics, yes but technically true.

Sunroc ,

That's why reporters would say " presumptive nominee"

dejected_warp_core ,

Plus I can't recall if I've ever seen one of these parties entertain competition against an incumbent (or former president). In such cases, the party nomination is kinda/sorta a formality. This is why we have heard of zero alternative candidates from either the RNC or DNC.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Former presidents don't normally run because they learn their lesson the first time they lose.

Iheartcheese ,
@Iheartcheese@lemmy.world avatar

The best kind of true.

bigFab ,

Thanks 4 the info, now I get it 😆 American poliitics r beautiful 🤯

ChairmanMeow ,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

Trump was officially nominated by the RNC as their candidate. Biden hadn't been nominated by the DNC yet, that was supposed to happen at the conference in a couple weeks. But now that he has pulled out, he will not be nominated and thus not be the official candidate.

Empricorn ,

Does the fact that Biden pulled off 4 months before election mean he was never a candidate?

Correct. If I won Beauty Queen last year and stated my intention to run again this year, but then withdrew before I officially entered, you can't say I won. You also can't say I lost, I never actually entered.

The difference is the RNC already had their convention. Trump is their official Nominee, no matter what else happens...

Scubus ,

Highest unemployment during his term since the great depression

Humorless4483 ,

He was president during covid so no shit.

Humorless4483 ,

He was president during covid so no shit.

Doomsider ,

The tone-deafness of this reply is pretty ridiculous considering how badly he fucked up. He disbanded the team who was supposed to respond to this disaster, denied it was a big deal, told people not to vaccinate when he got the shot, and politicized a public health issue unnecessarily.

It is estimated hundred of thousands of less deaths would have happened if Trump had just done his job and not spent his time grandstanding and demonizing public health officials. To put that in perspective, that is more US deaths than every single conflict since WWII combined.

So yeah, when you are purposely killing hundreds of thousands of Americans while hand waving it away like it is no big deal you get to own that. The reason unemployment was so bad was because of Trump not COVID.

To top it off, the Biden administration turned it all around and showed us how much of a dysfunctional shit show the previous administration was. To this day places that drank the Trump Kool aid still have higher deaths rates.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,
absentbird ,
@absentbird@lemm.ee avatar

He's the oldest living Republican former president.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Only by like a month, but still counts!

absentbird ,
@absentbird@lemm.ee avatar

He's the second oldest overall, only Jimmy Carter beats him in age.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Jimmy Carter beats pretty much all past presidents in age-related categories. He's the oldest former president (and still going!) and has been out of office (alive) for over 43 years and counting, much longer than any previous one.

Sam_Bass ,

Just hope he makes a repeat performance on that last point

OneWomanCreamTeam ,
@OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works avatar

Unfortunately losing the popular vote doesn't mean he loses the election. Here's to hoping he loses both.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

He is 100% guaranteed to lose the popular vote by millions. Unfortunately, that doesn't determine whether he wins the election.

juliebean ,

pretty sure other people have been convicted of crimes before. he is fantastically old though. maybe he got sent to juvie back in his childhood hometown of Bedrock and was the first convicted criminal!

AnarchistsForKamala ,

pretty sure other people have been convicted of crimes before.

name one.

AngryCommieKender ,

Technically, President Grant got pulled over, and taken into custody, in 1872 for "speeding on a horse within the city limits of Washington DC." It was the third such ticket he was given in his life, the first two being in the early part of the 1860s when he was just a General. The cop tried to let him go, and Grant cited section 1983 of the federal code that had been passed a few months previously in 1871 that stated unequivocally that no one is above the law, not even a sitting president.

AnarchistsForKamala ,

you didn't need to but you did choose to preface this with "technically" which should have tipped you off that this really isn't in the same arena.

AngryCommieKender ,

No, but it is an excuse to share this article about that law.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html

This really means that Harlow v Fitzgerald should be overturned.

Buddahriffic ,

Hmm out of curiosity, what's the current status of that law?

AngryCommieKender ,

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html

It's still in the congressional record, but in 1874 an unnamed secretary, I believe had Southern Revisionist views, unilaterally revised the law, so it has been improperly copied into the Federal Register ever since.

Buddahriffic ,

Police immunity is another interesting angle I hadn't thought of. I was thinking about whether it was relevant to the recent supreme Court ruling, maybe even some ammo for impeachment if they directly contradicted a law with their ruling.

juliebean ,

Al Capone

AnarchistsForKamala ,
CyberTailor ,
@CyberTailor@lemmy.world avatar

There was a socialist candidate for president Eugene V. Debs, running from a prison cell in 1920

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

They shoulda specified felonies.

juliebean ,

pretty sure my uncle got put away for felonies ages ago.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Is your uncle a former President of the United States who works at Nintendo?

juliebean ,

no, he'a dead. throat cancer.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

My condolences.

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