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TheLepidopterists , (edited )
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Could a told you that 2 years ago when Boris Johnson sabotaged the peace talks so his masters in DC could benefit from Russia remaining at war.

EDIT: I guess I don't understand completely Lemmy, because some lib is calling me a Russian troll under this comment and I can't see it unless I go to the original/non-hexbear post.

davel , (edited )
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Unfortunately many LIBstances cowardly defederate from hexbear, so you can’t see their comments.

TheLepidopterists ,
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Oh yeah, I knew about that part but I think I assumed the defederation would stop all visibility in both directions, and I guess they can see us but are hiding from us, like, as you say, cowards.

davel , (edited )
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They can talk about you behind your back, though I doubt they’re usually aware they’re doing it. Most people don’t know the gory details of federation and don’t pay much attention to which instances are defederated from which.

yogthos OP ,
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The staggering scale of devastation that ensued when the West shut down diplomatic talks between Russia and Ukraine in March 2022 is truly mind-boggling. Thousands perished, countless others were injured or disfigured, while millions more had their futures irrevocably altered by this turn of events. This atrocious act ranks as one of the more egregious crimes against humanity in recent history.

otp ,

I guess I don't understand completely Lemmy, because some lib is calling me a Russian troll under this comment and I can't see it unless I go to the original/non-hexbear post

I think that was common on Reddit, too.

It usually means they replied and blocked you, or deleted their comment later. (Or it got deleted by a mod)

It's people who have the mentality that the last word wins the argument, especially since anyone else who reads the comment chain would think you had nothing to say in response.

troed ,
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This isn't Xitter. No need to spread Russian propaganda here.

There were no peace talks that would ever be acceptable for Ukraina.

yogthos OP ,
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This isn't reddit, no need to spread NAFO propaganda here.

There won't be an Ukraina left to do peace talks if things keep going the way they are.

PoY ,
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seriously... nafo troll shit only works on twitter because elon gives reach arounds to the MIC pigs, and even then its laughable

CableMonster ,

The difference is that Ukraine would have been forced to accept something because they were going to lose sooner. So instead they had tens of thousands of dead Ukrainians, and get a worse deal. Thanks NATO!

davel ,
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https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/56d08327-ce40-48d7-91d4-9bd4cced63bf.jpeg

LopensLeftArm ,
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TIL lemmy.ml is a mouthpiece for the Russian aggressor state.

yogthos OP ,
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TYL lemmy.ml isn't a liberal propaganda outlet.

LopensLeftArm ,
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No, it's a mouthpiece for the Russian state, apparently.

yogthos OP ,
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Imagine not being able to understand how deranged that comment is. 😂

davel ,
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https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/92f44010-71e5-485c-90e1-179b6b46167b.jpeg

Omega_Haxors , (edited )
fixed.

edited to say us are the terrorists

Noncompete censored version:

edited to replace "terrorists" with "Taco Bell"

the context

LopensLeftArm ,
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Imagine being so privileged you go on the internet to digitally suck Putin's dick.

PoY ,
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oops sounds like you should just fuck back off to reddit and/or parler where you came from

ComradeChairmanKGB ,
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A westerner using the term "aggressor state" is pretty funny.

juchebot88 , (edited )
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Sounds like something a fascist loser, whose country has no production of its own, would say.

OleoSaccharum ,

It's time to pay up, big boy. Watch them pay

frippa ,
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So much for the free marketplace of ideas, I can't even get Putinbucks in peace now...

PanArab ,
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There were no peace talks that would ever be acceptable for Ukraina.

Not true.

Hathaway ,

Just for a little bit of nuance, and I don’t tend to see eye to eye with .Hexbesr users but I swear I’m not here just to fight, but, as far as I’m aware, Zelensky can’t negotiate peace if there’s a concession of land. It’s in their government somewhere. He’d need the Ukrainian people to vote for and pass such a thing. Which, I don’t see happening. So perpetual war is what we get for a while I guess. Lovely.

ksynwa ,
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I would love to see a source for this. Even if this is true, it's probably possible to circumvent regulations like this during war time. If elections can be suspended, opposition political parties can be banned then this is like possible as well.

Hathaway , (edited )

Here’s their constitution any peace deal must be ratified by the people.

Which, I’m not going to say there isn’t going to be eventual concessions, those people aren’t going to vote to become a Russian state for a long time. Too much division. There are legitimate Russia supporters and there are a ton of pro-Ukrainian citizens. I don’t see how you do that, with actual democracy, for quite some time. Someone has to start losing fairly decisively sadly. I don’t see that happening for a while. A lot of people are going to die yet.

Edit: article 156 more specifically as changing borders requires a constitutional change which requires the people to pass.

ksynwa ,
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Thanks