My problem isn't so much with electron, it's more with teams being run on electron. Out of all of the office (or related) applications, as far as I'm aware, teams is the only electron app, and it's the only one with the kind of problems it gets.
I can run Outlook or Excel for months and nothing goes wrong. The other day, I ran teams for more than 24 straight hours (not doing anything other than chatting, and the occasional maybe 30m video meeting, or 15 minute call), and when I joined a video meeting, it ran like complete garbage. It was choppy and jittery. Just really bad. The fix was to close teams and reopen it.
That's why I don't like electron. It's the only ms office related app that uses electron that I know of, and it's also the only one that I know of which needs regular maintenance (by shutting it down, and starting it up again) in order to function correctly.
Honestly though, its not the developers fault. 100% they are being told what to prioritize working on, and I'm certain its exclusively business facing improvements. Microsoft only cares about making the package of features they provide look sexy to the people who would be pulling the trigger on bringing Teams to their office, not the people who actually have to use it.
Sadly this is just the way capitalism works, short term thinking, sacrifice the product for the sales, and then 5 years down the road wonder where it all went wrong; or monopolize the market and pay congress to pull the ladder up behind you.
My organization has all of our shared folders INSIDE of the Teams file structure. Supposedly, One Drive should sync with the files inside of Teams, but this never happens. Instead we have people constantly asking for files that are in the shared folders, but because they aren't manually syncing every time they open the folder, they aren't seeing shit. Its so goddamm frustrating, but my boss is insistent on keeping everything inside the one app for "convenience".
The coolest thing that happened to me with teams was somehow being invited and automatically accepted to some corpo training event. 1000 attendees. My computer would not shut the fuck up with random people in chat. It was so strange. It was like a twitch stream chat but talking about excel instead.
There are many valid complaints about Teams in this thread. The most unforgivable for me is the purple theme. Purple isn't even a wavelength. It shouldn't exist, nor should Teams, and I shouldn't be forced to stare at both of them throughout my work day.
I’ve been in companies that use Teams and companies that use Slack. The difference was people actually used Slack outside their core team channels. Teams was nearly a ghost town in the wider organization. I felt that was solid evidence that people only used Teams because they had to. They also had to use Slack, but they also kind of liked it.
my proverbial non existent children, will not be having any sort of relations with anybody who develops cringe and unfunny closed sourced software, no sir, not in my household.
Every update, some thing breaks. The "new" Teams does not work well with the microphone on my work laptop, I've had to resort to using headphones. The interface just sucks too. I hate that the left pane auto-hides now. So inconvenient. It's not just Teams too. Every part of Office has broken for us during previous updates. I miss the times when Windows was just an OS for the most part and MS was not trying hard to be Apple.
I have a small business and we all work from home. Teams is amazing for remote working. Great for chatting, sharing screens and remote controlling another computer. Don't know why it's getting so much hate.
Because it's objectively worse than every major alternative while being absurdly resource intensive. Just watching it struggle feels like the punchline to a very dry & tragically unfunny joke
I have a good spec computer so no issues with it struggling. The alternatives might be better, but Teams coming with Office 365 makes it so cheap it's worth it.
Teams feels a bit like a never ending beta. On one hand, it's kind of nice to get constant tweaks and it's generally pretty good. On the other, things do break from time to time. There's also the whole "new teams" thing, which feels... very similar to "old teams". All the old sillyness, like not being able to folder dive in a team while chatting (it will forget where you were when you switch back) for not much benefit. It also is a big regression in basics like spell check speed. It takes seconds for a red squiggle to send, so now my spoild self has to wait a bit before hitting enter.
At least it's not new outlook. Everything on that is way slower and it's very clear the UI was not optimized for a computer. Left click to spell check in an email body, right click to spell check in an email title. Want to add formatting in a meeting invite? Ha, that's rich. Even very basic things like changing fonts take forever.
Both feel a bit like a new PM being given the reigns and going at it. I struggle to see what was so wrong with the old versions, especially outlook...
Its features are great, like any other web confrence software that does the same.
However the constant UI changes lead to a lot of issues for IT people who have re-tech the entire staff how to use it every update. For a small business thats not probably too bad. For somewhere with hundreds of employee working from home who barley know where the start menu is - that's a nightmare.
The "new" teams doesn't work with business accounts. you have to use the specific, now seperate, version for "work and school". Guess which one the everyone's existing desktop link is to?
Now IT has to get everyone to use the right version of teams...an absolutely insane choice and terrible end user expirence.
If it's just a wrapper around the browser version, why not just use the browser version directly? Chrome (and probably other browsers) let you "install" sites so they have their own icon on the desktop and launcher, and launch it in a separate window. You just need to ensure you check the "open in new Window" option when creating the shortcut.
