therealjcdenton ,
@therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip avatar

Yes you did

Harbinger01173430 ,

Good, let them rot in jail

Hikermick ,

Fuck em. Stab me in the back and I'll go full on scorched earth

mriormro ,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

You should seek therapy.

Ummdustry ,

Maybe you should seek vengance? It's much cheaper.

magnetosphere ,
magnetosphere avatar

It doesn’t matter what we think, because this is probably fiction anyway.

hswolf ,
@hswolf@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, does it really matter at this point?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Hypothetical moral arguments are the best moral arguments

33550336 ,
@33550336@lemmy.world avatar

Reporting such a crime is a good thing no matter what cuckolding has been done. Unless it was a harmless weed dealer, not some crack selling fucker.

chetradley ,

"Drug dealer" is such a broad term that ranges from someone selling weed/shrooms to some buddies to running a fentanyl ring. I don't know how anyone could say snitching was ok or not with the info anon provided.

And009 ,

Could be a prescribed student dealing Adderall for all we know

therealjcdenton ,
@therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip avatar

Both are unauthorized dealers of an illegal drug so both should be reported

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Unironically the kind of person who would let the SS know their neighbor was harbouring Jews

nutsack ,

deoends on your politics view and integrity of your emotions

Numenor ,

Yeah, maybe he's into the cuckolding

hitwright ,

It's surprising how many people are siding with the drug dealer. The dude doesn't even pay taxes...

OneWomanCreamTeam ,
@OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works avatar

I've met drug dealers who pay their taxes. The IRS doesn't really give a shit if what you're doing is illegal, so long as they get paid.

nonfuinoncuro ,

only break one law at a time...

DrPop ,

This is true see IRS publication 525.

Illegal activities.

 https://www.irs.gov/publications/p525https://www.irs.gov/publications/p525

Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), line 8z, or on Schedule C (Form 1040) if from your self-employment activity.

Bribes are also considered taxable income.

atocci ,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

The point here is to make it explicitly clear that if you're making money off illegal activity, you can and will be charged with tax evasion when caught. The government will still take action if you tell on yourself, even for tax purposes 👍

AngryCommieKender , (edited )

Even The Joker pays his taxes. He explicitly said, "I'm crazy enough to fight take on Batman, but the IRS? No Thank You."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G56VgsLfKY4

AgentGrimstone ,

Only for their legit job I hope. That just sounds like a bad idea to be reporting your illegal activities and hoping the government doesn't decide to use it against you later. Why take the risk?

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Knew a guy who sold shrooms to people, he'd give you an invoice for em.

Not for the shrooms, fuck no, it was all for computer repair and building and consulting and yadda yadda. Sold shrooms with fake PC invoices for a few years and eventually managed to snag a job doing something in IT thanks to the 3 years of running a PC home business

Still sells shrooms, too, the lovely bastard. Dunno if he gives invoices anymore though

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Does he accept an HSA card for the... uh... computer repair?

yokonzo ,

As a former dealer, this is a dumb take. Yeah ofc I paid my taxes. Don't confuse people who just wanna make a living with some strung out federal-lifer who doesn't even give a shit. You're letting your prejudices think for you.

the_crotch ,

Considering our taxes pay for bombs, drones, domestic surveillance, and other crimes against humanity one could argue that it's more ethical to not pay them.

olutukko ,

now that's a petty revenge if I've ever seen one. and just the type of fucked up attitude I've seen so much on image boards like holy shit what is up with that guy

ddkman ,

Weeell depending on what he dealt tbf. Weed yeah. Herion, fuck the dealer.

RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Same.

olutukko , (edited )

I was going to add something in these lines, but even if he was heroin dealer but did it responsibly with testing the drugs and making sure he doesn't scame anyone it's still a lot better than some guu who replaces his job and sell heroin laced with fentanyl. it's way too complicated for me to be able to just judge them by the drug they sell. because you can never get rid of every dealer and someoke is just going to get their customers. the best you can do is damage control because the damage is going to happens anyway

edit: based on the downvotes people want fentanyl and other even more dangerous shit to the streets than heroin is I guess :D (just kidding I know these downvotes are not from people wanting heroin users to die but from people who think heroin is too big of taboo to be spoken like this. I would have no one down voting me if I was talking about laced weed and how it's better to sell unlaced weed)

I am not saying it's okay to sell heroin. I am simply stating that it's a lesser evil to sell pure and tested dangerous drug than selling untested and even more dangerous drug

ddkman ,

There is no justifaction for dealing heroin i dont think.

olutukko ,

I didn't say it's justified😂 I literally said that it's better solution that the heroin dealer at least sells tested stuff. wouldn't you agree? or do you rather take fentanyl heroin the streets? because somebody is going to sell that heroin wheter you like it or not

I by any means don't want heroin on streets but I sure as hell know that evem if you spent the dea yearly budget to catch heroin dealers you wouldn't still wouldn't get all the heroin out of the streets

33550336 ,
@33550336@lemmy.world avatar

First I wrote something similar, now I see this. Fully agreed!

OneWomanCreamTeam ,
@OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works avatar

I mean, if he's testing his stuff and isn't misrepresenting what he's selling, is it really wrong to sell heroin or cocaine?

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Highly addictive substance that ruins the lives of most users and their families. Could be harmless, yeah....

OneWomanCreamTeam ,
@OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works avatar

I mean, it certainly isn't harmless, but I'm generally in support of adults being able to use whatever drug they please. If you sell clean, heroin that's keeping your customers from buying from someone who cuts it with fent or something.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I agree, but I think there needs to be rules around it. Heroin should only be used under medical supervision, and dosage should be controlled to avoid addiction. Likewise for other hard drugs that are highly addictive and carry a high risk of overdose.

If we ban it, people will get it illicitly. If we legalize it, we can ensure it's used as safely as possible.

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

I used to have the opinion that people who cheat deserve everything but violence, no revenge being too petty.

I still believe that, but I also realized that the people lame enough to cheat are not worth even being around and that they'll do a good enough job fucking up their lives without any help. There are exceptions to this rule though, snakes who cheat and lie and steal for sport, whom no form of retaliation would suffice and any amount of pettiness is beyond acceptable-- I can think of one such person who has went out of their way to wrong me like that, out of the two times I've been cheated one by different people, and had I the opportunity to destroy their life and have some part in them being locked up, I would do so without missing a beat and smile proudly every time I thought about because I would have truly done the world a favor through careful application of systemic functions rather than violence. If you disagree with this, let me ask you: would you prefer the violence? At the end of the day, all I care about is that they'd be unable to fuck with people's lives.

olutukko ,

I do get the feeling that you want some sort of justification but with petty revenge you achieve nothing and pretty much prove that you are not better than them.

of course there are some really twisted cases where even petty revenge is not as bad as the stuff that happened to yoi

noxy ,
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

no, that's incredibly fucked up. if true that's a fucking horrible thing to do to someone, and for such a fucking petty reason by comparison

Blackmist ,

Nobody likes a grass, but he did it for a good reason...

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

proof*

Allero ,

I might not agree with vengeance as a motive, but anon did a good thing.

Drugs are illegal for a reason. There are unfair laws - this ain't it.

Prunebutt ,

Alcohol and pot used to be illegal (pot is getting decriminalized more and more).

Prohibition doesn't work.

Flax_vert ,

Yeah but heroin isn't weed

sukhmel ,

But we also don't know what was sold, so we may guess from the statistics of trafficking that it was stimulators or weed:

drug trafficking offenses per drug: methamphetamine and cocaine about 24% each, marijuana 22%, crack cocaine 13%, heroin 10%

naeap , (edited )
@naeap@sopuli.xyz avatar

Heroin withdrawal is shit, but compared to alcohol or benzos it's at least not deadly. Also opiates are not hard on the body.

The problem with opiates is mostly getting clean ones - and the money for it.

In Switzerland they have a program, where they hand clean heroin to addicts and with a safe clean supply they can work, get a grip on their life again, and they start to reduce the dosage themselves after some time.

The social stigma and the idea to punish someone out of addiction is obviously bullshit.
People usually self medicate because of problems. So solving those problems is the right approach and not just taking away the crutch.

Also the state is losing quite some money with the prohibition - on multiple fronts

Prunebutt ,

Prohibition still doesn't work.

Aggravationstation ,

Heroin also isn't the same as the media likes to portray it. You don't magically turn into a crazed addict who'd sell their own grandmother for a hit as soon as you look at some. That's the same crap that used to be said about weed. Plenty of people live totally productive lives and use heroin regularly.

Flax_vert ,

What's your standard for "productive"

Prunebutt ,

What's yours?

maynarkh ,

That said, there are drugs which fuck your life up even in the very short term, and dealing them absolutely be criminalized. Using them should be a medical problem, but dealing? Straight to jail.

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about pot here.

Prunebutt ,

If prisons would work, the US would be drug-free by now.

dependencyinjection ,

How successful has the war on drugs been?

I could leave my house right now with no phone numbers and get pretty much most major drugs within an hour and things like Xanax and stuff you can source on the darkweb.

Look at prohibition and how it empowered the mafia.

Banning things doesn’t work. It funds larger crimes like human trafficking, slavery and terrorism.

I think we could use the money we spent fighting an unwinable war on things like education, treatment and helping people get off drugs.

Look at alcohol it’s legal and cause far more issues and expensive than say weed.

Allero ,

I think the real issue is the way we wage this war.

War on drugs has been a cover for insane international operations that siphon away endless amounts of money but don't work on the root causes.

I think we absolutely should build more rehabilitation facilities, educate more about the real dangers of drugs, but at the same time we should come up with smart policies regarding fight on drug crime.

And that regulation should exist - even the Netherlands, well-known for trying not to control this but go other ways, actually prohibits everything but the lightest of drugs.

I think the approach should be more like the new ideas on fighting things like bribery - you should be able to legally buy, but not sell drugs, and be rewarded for reporting sellers. This way you can easily turn up with real recording of the transaction and some evidence and be covered and rewarded as the perpetrator is sent to jail. Additionally, you should be offered witness protection.

This puts sellers in a super cautious asymmetric position relative to buyers and forces them out of the market. And without sellers, there's no drugs.

dependencyinjection ,

You’ve made some good points here, but I do think you’re underestimating people.

You can executed in the USA for murder yet people still do it. You can get a longer sentence for your third felony, people still commit them.

If there is a market for something, someone will fill that void. Regardless of the consequences.

What we need to fix is society. Why do people do drugs. A massive factor is to escape reality, or no prospects. This can be seen as drug addiction and abuse is by far a larger problem in poorer areas than affluent ones. So if we build a society where everybody has the bare minimum and maybe some prospects we will see a lot less drug use.

As with everything this doesn’t mean there won’t still be people that will so drugs no matter what and that’s fine. Those are the minority and our aim is for maximum improvements to society.

If drugs are legalised to buy from stores like they do with weed, and it is priced competitively then there wouldn’t be much of a black market as they won’t be able to compete, this is why I believe these should be run my governments and not greedy companies as well the price will rise and street buying will be cheaper. The profits can be used to fund other programs.

What is interesting is wondering what the cartels would move to to keep their profits the same. Would they move to scams, kidnapping and such. Would they go legit and supply legal cocaine and stuff.

Allero ,

And I absolutely agree on "fix the society" part!

There is a lot of issues in the modern world that drive people to drugs, rampant inequality and lack of prospects included.

But trying to fix that doesn't mean rejecting every other approach to the prevention of drug abuse. We need all we can do right now.

And if making murders illegal decreases homicide rates, we should make them illegal. Same idea.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Drugs are illegal for a reason

It just happens that the reason for most of them is "because it makes prisons a fuckton of money and disproportionately affects black people"

Allero , (edited )

Ah, no

They are almost universally addictive, bad for health (often causing significant irreversible damage), and associated with elevated probability of antisocial behavior (not saying everyone has it, but it's a risk).

Prisons are an issue, especially in America, but that's absolutely not the whole story about drugs. Just about every country with a normal, non-commercialized and non-weaponized prison system has those laws too.

But some of the Americans seem to be completely unable to look elsewhere for any political experience.

Liz ,

They do their job

Sounds more like green text OP did their job for them and they put the finishing touches on it.

neo ,

Anon goes by the name Wallace and can be pimped over a candy bar.

Obonga ,

Fake: pretending to having an ex-gf
&
Gay: being a narc

nova_ad_vitum ,

Even faker is the idea that the police would actually investigate and take action in response to evidence.

Dasus ,

Evidence of small time drug dealing, you bet they do.

Ofc the police are different in places, but that seems to be pretty common.

OneWomanCreamTeam ,
@OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works avatar

A small time drug dealer? We're on the case! We won't rest till that scum is behind bars.

Oh someone stole your car? I hope you have a signed confession for the thief. Investigation is hard and I don't wanna 😣

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