nondescripthandle ,

Oh, and what are Palestinian Americans saying? Seems plenty of them can't bring themselves to vote for either person, what does your meme make of them? This is just an anti white-saviour meme that still overlooks the fact that its also talking over the people it claims are being used as a ball.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Palestinian American here, grandfather's family are literally Nakba victims.

Voting Biden with absolutely zero moral qualms because I'm not some white fake leftist who doesn't live the difference enough to know damn well that Biden is an exponentially better alternative to Project 2025.

SkyezOpen ,

Electoral purity? If trump wins, project 2025 will do its best to dismantle democracy and usher in a wave of civil rights rollbacks amid other horrifying shit. Not to mention trump has been historically pro-israel so not really sure what your suggestion is here.

natural_motions ,

Acceleration to genocide? My dipshit in Christ, there's a full on genocide happening right now...

PugJesus ,
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Would the wording 'acceleration of genocide' be more acceptable?

natural_motions ,

No, because you can't accelerate something that's already at full speed.

teodor_from_achewood ,

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    natural_motions ,

    Are you talking about the mass grave of doctors and civilians? Or the patients left to die in their beds?

    teodor_from_achewood ,

    You can't be this surprised that people die during war, even in a war that Hamas starts.

    hermitix_world ,

    Genocide apologist says what?

    natural_motions ,

    What war? You can't be at war with a territory you already occupy and control completely.

    teodor_from_achewood ,

    Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 and it's been self-governed ever since.

    natural_motions , (edited )

    The hell? Israel has routinely shut off water and electricity to Gaza. They've been putting Gaza "on a diet" long before October 7th.

    I think you're being really dishonest here. A self-governed country doesn't get denied food by another, it doesn't have its citizens ability to leave that territory controlled by another state, it doesn't have troops come in and burn crops. That's still occupation.

    PugJesus ,
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    ... you think this is full speed?

    Jesus Christ.

    Dubskee ,

    Good. Get em out of here and be done with it. The world will be better off.

    teodor_from_achewood ,

    Hamas should surrender.

    PugJesus ,
    @PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

    The chances of that are about the same as Israel offering reasonable peace conditions of their own accord.

    We deal with the world we have, not the world we want.

    teodor_from_achewood ,

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    deegeese ,
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    Sure, just kneel down to the people trying to exterminate you.

    Leate_Wonceslace ,
    @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Sure, and Israel should stop doing genocide and give all that land back.

    PugJesus ,
    @PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

    My favorite is "THIS ISN'T REAL DEMOCRACY", as though most Americans are in favor of defunding Israel.

    It would be great if they were. But by and large they are not.

    marcos ,

    It doesn't look like that poll is saying what you think it's saying. But it's quite clear the text around it was written to make you think it says what you think it says.

    PugJesus ,
    @PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

    Most Americans believe Biden is either doing the right thing, or not doing enough in favor of Israel, including Democrats.

    You wanna explain to me how that translates to "Most Americans are in favor of defunding Israel!"

    marcos ,

    The one pair of questions that say what you are insisting they say are the one about Netanyahu. And those have about 30% of people supporting him. (That's still a lot of people, granted.)

    The other ones absolutely do no translate to support or not of the current genocide.

    PugJesus ,
    @PugJesus@lemmy.world avatar

    The one pair of questions that say what you are insisting they say are the one about Netanyahu. And those have about 30% of people supporting him. (That’s still a lot of people, granted.)

    Americans Divided Over U.S. Support for Israel and the Palestinians
    Do you think the United States supports [Israel/the Palestinians] too much, about the right amount or too little?

    % Too much% Right amount% Too little% No opinion
    U.S. support for Israel
    U.S. adults
    36
    38
    24
    Republicans
    26
    37
    37
    Independents
    40
    36
    22
    Democrats
    40
    43
    15

    Where is Netanyahu mentioned here?

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