idkmybffjoeysteel ,
@idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net avatar

Plot twist: the bombs were intended for use in Rafah and Biden feared they only might be.

Rom ,
@Rom@hexbear.net avatar

No way they were using all those weapons for genocide??!!!?!

lmao as if he's just now realizing this, sure thing.

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

“Why won’t he do anything to stop the bombing?”

stops bomb shipment

“Dumb dumb didn’t know bombs are for bombing? Yeah right!”

Like what even is your comment trying to say?

StalinIsMaiWaifu ,
@StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml avatar

That Biden still carries water for Israel despite recognizing they misuse the weapons we give them

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

Ok so he should just let these through? And why are you responding as if anyone acted like the intended use of these bombs is a revelation?

No one here is saying this absolves him/us of the US’s role in Israel’s horrific actions. But there are protests happening, people are saying this needs to stop, and a shipment of bombs just stopped. That happened, and it’s worth noting. So we need to keep up the pressure to get this to stop entirely.

We both know he’s not going to just unilaterally end this horror show today.

freagle ,

That this is a best a PR stunt and at worst an outright lie. This one shipment isn't going to do anything to curtail Israel's behavior and the shipment will eventually be delivered anyway.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

More plausibly, US has now run through its stocks of weapons sending them to Ukraine, and doesn't have the weapons to send. Framing it as refusing to send the weapons because US all of a sudden developed a conscience is a way to avoid admitting this.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

More plausibly, US has now run through its stocks of weapons sending them to Ukraine, and doesn’t have the weapons to send.

That is the most wildly implausible thing I've read on Lemmy today.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Western media openly admits that US isn't able to keep up with ammunition production for Ukraine. Try keep up with the real world.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Western media openly admits that US isn’t able to keep up with ammunition production for Ukraine.

Yes, but that only applies to artillery shells and there's a very good reason.

Try keep up with the real world.

I do, which is why I know that things like JDAMS are entirely unconstrained. The U.S. has hundreds of thousands of them lying around.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes, but that only applies to artillery shells and there’s a very good reason.

Reason being lack of industrial capacity. And it's not just artillery shells, it's a systemic problem https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine

do, which is why I know that things like JDAMS are entirely unconstrained. The U.S. has hundreds of thousands of them lying around.

Not really unconstrained given that US has delusions about fighting China. Also, how many of those still work is a question.

Alaskaball ,
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

And the millions of weapons prior to the some 3.5 thousand bombs weren’t?

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

You’re totally right he should just go ahead and let the shipment happen…?

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

nobody here is suggesting this except you

Lath ,

Definitely would. The more accomplices, the better.

thesporkeffect ,

Oh come on. This is pretty limp wristed narrative bait. There was one shipment out of many that maybe got held up, temporarily, potentially by accident, that's not the firm moral opposition to a genocide that we seem to think it is

Melkath ,

Smacks of "I am placing sanctions on Israel" Places sanctions on 3 men

Zehzin ,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

If anyone thinks that they're either lying or just very stupid

The_Jewish_Cuban ,
@The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net avatar

Means tested genocide!

lemmyseizethemeans ,

This particular comment sings to me

rayyy ,

Biden has been slow-walking arms to Israel for a while but there are forces that want to use Netanyahu's actions against him as if Biden has control of him.

frankgrimeszz ,

… Was there shipments to Israel before last week?

Pilgrim ,

At least its a slight movement in the right direction, but until the flow is cut off entirely we need to hold his feet to the fire.

LarkinDePark ,

Too little, too late.

ski11erboi ,

Too late for thousands but in time for hundreds of thousands more.

LarkinDePark ,

Yeah that brief pause achieved nothing except to give his genocide complicit supporters an excuse to continue to make excuses for him.

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