Kolanaki , (edited )
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Lovecraft Howard Philip called the author a clown. I don't know if that's an insult or a compliment, given the time period that would have had to be in. Clowns were cool at some point, right?

Aatube OP ,
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

That's an intriguing way to look at it. I can't find an origin for that quotation, though. Would you kindly link it?

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

It was literally in the wiki you linked to lol. Though I was mistaken, it wasn't Howard Philip Lovecraft, but "Philip Howard."

Philip Howard, writing a lipogrammatic appraisal of A Void in his column Lost Words, said "This is a story chock-full of plots and sub-plots, of loops within loops, of trails in pursuit of trails, all of which allow its author an opportunity to display his customary virtuosity as an avant-gardist magician, acrobat and clown."

PoolloverNathan , (edited )

Why do most subposts in this post look kinda off?

subignition ,
subignition avatar

It's a running gag that avoids using a glyph (fifth), which a plurality of us want to copy. But, you could possibly know this.

Aatube OP ,
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

subposts

ShaunaTheDead ,

A Void's plot follows a group of individuals looking for a missing companion, Anton Vowl. It is in part a parody of noir and horror fiction, with many stylistic tricks, gags, plot twists, and a grim conclusion. On many occasions it implicitly talks about its own lipogrammatic limitation, highlighting its unusual syntax. A Void's protagonists finally work out which symbol is missing, but find it a hazardous topic to discuss, as any who try to bypass this story's constraint risk fatal injury. Philip Howard, writing a lipogrammatic appraisal of A Void in his column Lost Words, said "This is a story chock-full of plots and sub-plots, of loops within loops, of trails in pursuit of trails, all of which allow its author an opportunity to display his customary virtuosity as an avant-gardist magician, acrobat and clown."

I also find it funny that this paragraph from OP's link also avoids using an individual symbol. I'm also trying to do it in my post, but it's hard to form any thought without it. I don't think that I could draft a full book using this constraint, and notably a book that's so cognizant of it's own imposing limitation and of it's protagonists habit of fourth wall smashing.

angrystego ,

My mood was spoilt by looking up this author and what folk call him. Oh, I wouldn't want to construct a book of this kind. It hurts.

Aatube OP ,
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

andin basnoda?

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/576f7bbd-9fa6-40ad-a17b-919fe279499a.png

SharkEatingBreakfast ,
@SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz avatar

Don't know why, but I find this absolutely eerie.

theOneTrueSpoon ,

An individual should start an avoid5 community

jxk ,

!avoid5

Aatube OP ,
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

I was planning to start-again 195 for this thing but sure!

Aatube OP ,
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

(hey can i be mod thx)

jxk ,

Sure

jxk ,

Apparently I can only make you mod if you comment in the community, so please make a post there with a comment in it, and I'll add you
Cheers

Aatube OP ,
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Gotcha

Aatube OP , (edited )
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Could you add "Always post prior to your parting", a 195-ish policy, to the words about the purpose of the community? And probably that "Posts and subposts may contain The"? don't think I may modify anything from non-mbin hosts.

gbzm ,

How about "most famous and trustworthy virtual information vault"? Or is that too much?

gbzm ,

How surprising! I thought that symbol most popular in "La disparition"'s original localism, but this wiki says this translation's vocabulary has a similar proportion and thus - probably - a similar difficulty.

johsny ,
@johsny@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks! Fascinating, I will look it up!

steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

TLDR The whole book doesn’t have the letter e so the plot in the wiki doesn’t either

gbzm ,

Did you just ruin it to tldr an info that's just a Bing away?

stoicmaverick ,

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    Sekoia ,

    You mean the engine owned by the guy who refuses to abide to the GDPR, thinks anti-suicide messages would be bias, wants to use AI to "remove bias from news articles" (and from reviews)? https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html goes into it, it's a whole mess.

    Right now all search engines suck, unfortunately.

    stoicmaverick ,

    Wut? My office was not notified of this. Launching an nvestigation. Thanks for at least explaining the down vote.

    gbzm ,

    What is this discussion? Did y'all not grasp what was going on with that first Bing talk? I was just trying to stop you guys and gals using that symbol willy nilly; nobody's actually apologizing for Bing

    stoicmaverick ,

    I honestly don't know anymore dude. People are getting super down vote happy, and I don't know why. In another thread, I said that you shouldn't encourage people to have eating disorders, and it got downvoted, so I don't know.

    AnUnusualRelic ,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    Well, back to searching by hand. This is going to take a while...

    Aatube OP , (edited )
    @Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

    I will boosty all sayings in this post that persist in our plight and do l'contrary for individuals who don't. Ciao

    Sekoia ,

    Sorry, I cannot post as such for I am a fool!

    gbzm ,

    I was not. My point was just that this post has a sort of linguistic playing going on that that first tldr didn't follow, but you didn't also so... I don't know why I try. I just found it fun.

    PoolloverNathan , (edited )

    Wait, what's wrong with that char? It's just a normal char, why can't I post it?

    Variation: unwittingly posted said char

    Feathercrown ,

    Fascinating! I may find looking at this book in my todo list.

    (This is hard!)

    gbzm ,

    Oulipo is chock full of amazing linguistic training propositions isn't it?

    cbarrick ,

    I see what you did there 😉

    voracitude , (edited )

    You don't say? But you said it. Why, you don't find it - approaching mortality for saying it, as in A Void - intimidating? I admit though, not using it is limiting. A book writ without that symbol... Wow. But I must stop now, I can't think of any words without it.

    gbzm ,

    May I submit a formulation akin to "I got what you did thusly"?

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