lambalicious ,

10th time

only now threatens jail time

Correct me but any pregraduate law student who hasn't been skipping on their classes could get rich by filing for the obvious bias the judges have to allow 10 contempts of court, wouldn't they?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

This is the second ruling of contempt

First ruling was collectively over 9 comments he made.

This is the second, and said next would be jail time.

BakerBagel ,

This is still from the first batch of contempt charges. The judge ruled on 9/10 and wanted more information before ruling on the 10th

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

This is the second, and said next would be jail time.

Didn't they say that after the first as well?

Asafum ,

And they'll say it again after the next.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

No.

lambalicious ,

So, if I am understanding correctly, as a citizen I can threaten a judge 9 times, or threaten 9 different judges, and demand that I can only be held accountable for only one of them, or for all of them as a package only once?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

No, you are not understanding it correctly.

lambalicious ,

Feel free to explain then, because from here it looks like El Trumpo should have been thrown to jail 8 contempts ago, like any normal citizen. Right now if I was a US citizen I would be justified in citing precedent that I can't be sent to jail or even threatened with jail time with only 6 contempts.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

No thanks

ekZepp ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar
NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

I'll do it you big meanie!!! :'(

moon ,

"threatens" lmao ok let me know when you're actually gonna do something

Kuvwert ,

100 hours of trash pickup per violation

MamboGator ,
@MamboGator@lemmy.world avatar

That wouldn't be fair because standing up would count as trash pickup for him.

rusticus ,

Trump’s hair has entered cotton candy mode

ExfilBravo ,

That judges threats are emptier than an Donald Trumps head.

Voroxpete ,

Don't be fooled by the "10th time". There were 9 separate violations that were all brought as a single complaint last week. So technically one "time" (as in, one ruling), just regarding 9 separate tweets so technically nine separate incidents. Number ten here is basically Donnie's second strike in terms of actual warnings. If he gets a third without repercussions, then I think it'll be fair to say the judge may be bluffing.

Remember, judges have to play things a little softly if they don't want to set up precedent for appeal. He can't give Trump any reason to claim he's being treated unfairly. Two warnings is perfectly reasonable.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

If the jail time is on par with the fines he gets, he should spend about five minutes in jail. That should teach him not to do it again.

Voroxpete ,

It's actually pretty likely to just be an afternoon, the first time around. Remember, this is a penalty for behaviour in court, not for the actual crimes he's done. The point is to get him to stop acting like a little child. So yeah, odds are the judge books him for an afternoon, just so he can see how bad it is, then if he still keeps at it he starts getting week long stretches until he learns to stop attacking witnesses.

bitwolf ,

This could be a great way to lower inflation.
Just keep holding Trump in contempt and taking the fines out of circulation.

Or maybe we can use the fines to fund mass transit expansion.

Karyoplasma ,

Doesn't this create a precedence for being a dick to judges because they let it slide for Drowsy Don and everyone is supposed to be treated equally in front of court? I wonder what would happen if I were to be found in contempt of court for the 10th time in my trial.

UFODivebomb ,

It does! Tempted to start a campaign educating the accused on their rights to harass judges and staff.

Karyoplasma ,

You'll run into less trouble if you just accept the fact that some people are more equal than others.

isles ,

Accepting that "fact" is how we got here.

Voroxpete ,

He's not been warned ten times. It's ten violations. The first nine happened as a block. So this is his second strike, in terms of how often he's been reprimanded for this.

JohnDClay ,

They can only fine $1000 per violation, so that's basically useless for stopping trump. Hopefully they'll escalate to jail time.

ekZepp ,
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar
fine_sandy_bottom ,

Everyone complaining about the judges leniency... consider that getting locked up would be absolute gold for trumps campaign. Infinite money as well as great exposure.

Yeas it works be great to see him behind bars, but I'd prefer to play the long game.

Baggie ,

I would wonder then what would be a better alternative? Like if he's going to milk being a martyr then how can he be punished?

fine_sandy_bottom ,

He just needs to go to jail for a real crime with a penalty of many years.

If you lock him up for a couple of days it just activates his base.

VinnyDaCat ,

Wish more people understood this.

Even if he was locked up for a lengthy period of time, he can campaign from jail. There is precedent for this. He has to be locked up under specific circumstances to stop his campaign.

kibiz0r ,

Name one famous example of a charismatic coup-attempting fascist getting locked up and rallying their supporters behind a manifesto referring to “their struggle”.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Ooh ooh I know this one! The answer is Hitler!

paholg ,

That is irrelevant. If Trump's behavior would cause a regular schlub to be jailed, then he should be jailed, full stop. That's how the law is supposed to work.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

I'm sorry but you're gravely mistaken.

A judges whole job is to interpret the law and to apply appropriate penalties given the circumstances.

In some cases crimes have prescribed penalties - "exceeding the speed limit by 5mph" probably has a prescribed penalty.

In other cases the judge must weight the circumstances and determine what penalty is appropriate.

In this case, trump is antagonising the judge because it keeps his base engaged, and keeps campaign donations flowing in. Trump wants to go to jail because it would ignite his base. Why would a judge feel that penalty is appropriate? May as well give him a blow job.

More to the point, the primary objective of any punishment in this case would be to cause Trump to desist. If putting him in jail is not going to do that, but rather give his contemptuous remarks a far greater reach, then why indeed put him in jail?

Honestly, the best course of action for the judge and the correct "punishment" for Trump is to give his various utterances the least oxygen possible while preserving the authority of the court.

Red_October ,

Maybe the Judge will actually do something useful once Trump's stochastic terrorism actually, inevitably, leads to an act of violence.

But probably not.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

I was gonna say 3rd times the charm but it clearly isn't.

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