akariii ,

I dont have an imagination of my own and still I dont use AI

NoFood4u ,
@NoFood4u@sopuli.xyz avatar

ChatGPT is great for yapping about patriotism for a school history essay, but It's completely unable to write anything useful or sensible. So I'll keep on doing things like art, storywriting and programming myself, but I'll use whatever cheats I have available for the pointless things I'm forced to do.

dependencyinjection ,

Does this count for AlphaFold 3 and other similar ai’s?

ZILtoid1991 OP ,

Looked it up, it's quite different (actually useful) than the programs that imagines things instead of a person that writes an article.

crispyflagstones ,

Look up what people used to say about digital art and tell me if history repeats itself or not

wrenchmonkey ,

😮‍💨

ZILtoid1991 OP ,

I was actually there. The backlash against digital art usually came from:

  • people who were otherwise already elittist towards one or two painting styles and media,
  • art gallery regulars (they can't sell JPEGs or PSDs),
  • poor people as back then graphics tablets were way more expensive and alternatives to Wacom also worse (the patents for their battery-free pens haven't expired yet), thus it was cheaper to buy paint and/or markers.
Halosheep ,

I've had some really cool image ideas I would have never been able to create myself, so take your artist elitism and shove it.

ZILtoid1991 OP ,

Just pick up a pencil!

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Restoftheowl.jpg

mindbleach ,

You can do wild shit that's barely possible with any other tools.

You can feed in images instead of text, or alongside it, and turn blobby sketches into photoreal renders.

You can describe contradictory nonsense and get a decent effort to square the circle.

You can keep saying more, more, more, and get exaggerations revealing an adjective's visual essence.

... but yeah, folks keep posting "woman naked anime" five hundred brainless images at a time. So few people are even making comics with this shit. Do they not understand each panel is its own little drawing? You piece together what you need. Story exists in the edit. Not even the people with a paragraph of "Remember, if you lose--" dialog in ev-er-y fucking image have figured out they can just show that now.

moonburster ,

I believe that people with a good imagination actually make use of Ai better, they can generate way more interesting prompts.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Then the choice of where to do inpainting and outpainting with further prompts is a very artistic decision.

kinsnik ,

there is a lot of nuance in the discussion, but a lot of people just want a quick black and white answer. you can use AI to supplement other artistic projects (like using AI to create images for a comic you wrote), so i don't agree with the premise of the post

but i also don't agree with people who say that AI is just another tool. i think that it is a paradigm changing tool, that is going to make us have to rethink how we interact with art.

vale ,

Jokes on you, I don't need AI to tell me that. I couldn't make a good build in Minecraft if you held me at gunpoint.

buzz86us ,

I like these apps to help me come up with ideas for different story concepts.

SomeGuy69 ,

The ability to speak doesn't mean you're intelligent.

voracitude ,

Okay. I write lyrics and have Suno turn them into full songs to make wife laugh. My wife laughs. But according to you I don't have any imagination because I'm not a multivocal singer, can't play any instruments, don't have my own band to play for her on demand? Fuck off.

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

For personal use I see little issue with it. If you, however, start publishing them, suppressing other voices and/or making money off of it, it becomes less clear.

voracitude ,

Well, I've shared my creations because I think they're funny too, and maybe other people will, but I'm not gonna put them on an album and sell them! I'm just arguing the creative side of it. Those tracks wouldn't exist without my lyrics, and I typically go through a bunch of "takes" to get the melodies and rhythms I want, so for someone to say there's no imagination involved feels thoroughly unfair to me.

Noodle07 ,

Yup, get good

voracitude ,

🤡

arisunz ,
@arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

lmao the proompter cope in this thread is real

FrostyTheDoo ,

Maybe other people just enjoy something and there's no reason to put them down for it. I wish I knew something you enjoyed so I could make fun of you for it. Sad person.

arisunz ,
@arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

ah yes im so very sorry, i should have kept the feelings of people who gladly feed on stolen labor and exploitation of the global south for their slop generator to work, in mind uwu

fuck outta here lmaoo

FrostyTheDoo ,

Cope more sad person LMAOOOOOOO

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

people who gladly feed on stolen labor and exploitation of the global south for their slop generator to work

What is this even supposed to refer to

chameleon ,

besides the fact that the models are trained on stolen, copyrighted work, the output is trash without millions of man hours painstakingly tuning it: https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/qa-uncovering-the-labor-exploitation-that-powers-ai.php

A_Very_Big_Fan , (edited )

of the global south

I meant this part specifically.

I already know y'all think storing the .01% of data derived from the images is theft. What's the labor specifically being stolen from "the global south"??

Edit: my bad for skimming the whole comment lol, I see now

arisunz ,
@arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

here: https://www.citationneeded.news/ai-isnt-useless/

also: https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/

then again someone already shared a link with relevant information and you dont really seem to care. so. kinda making my point there.

Ballistic_86 ,

I’m pro AI at this point. Any use it has in the real world have and will continue regardless if AI art somehow gets restricted. AI is choosing who gets jobs, doing the work previously done by humans, and companies will continue this trend.

Being able to create art that is good and makes someone money is already a 1% kinda thing (I don’t mean money-wise, I mean just the ability to earn money as an artist at all). If we can’t save the rest of humanity, artists are just going to have to join us.

arisunz ,
@arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

the indomitable human spirit: nuh uh :3

kate ,
@kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com avatar

AI art is real art because people get mad at it

NickwithaC ,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

AI art is real art because people made it.

Soundhole , (edited )

Good to see people finally stop being a bunch of reactionaries about it.

Artists make art using tools. AI is a tool. Bad artists still make bad art regardless of tools.

EDIT: Getting down voted by n00bs that don't even know a DDIM from a Euler A but call folks 'prompters' like it's derogatory.

cmfhsu ,

You've still gotta be good at prompt engineering to make great AI art.

Like you said - it's a tool which requires nuanced skill like any other art. It just happens to lower the barrier to entry a pretty significant amount

mindbleach ,

Anyone can make a work.

Not every work is art.

frezik ,

Thomas Kinkade agrees. Or his ghost-artists do, anyway.

DumbAceDragon ,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

You know what, I'll accept this.

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