I remember people like the account whose name is so politely obscured ( i.ibb.co )

moog , 22 days ago

Show me a better candidate that can beat Trump and they have my vote. If you think Biden is worse or even close to as damaging to the globe than Trump you're a Russian shill. /Thread

zea_64 , 22 days ago

There's a subtle difference between voting for Biden and enjoying Biden being president, that's what Shaun was getting at. For instance, I'm gonna vote for Biden, but I don't enjoy anything about it.

Asafum , 22 days ago

Imagine enjoying any US president...

We don't get to have nice things, we just get different flavors of "neo-shitphilosophy"

kittenzrulz123 Mod , 20 days ago

Liberals whenever someone talks about Genocide Joe: ☝️🤓 ummm akshurally what about Trump

LinkOpensChest_wav OP Mod , 20 days ago

Relevant image:

https://i.ibb.co/3Mc42pf/tumblr-d83338d92d102c354222a700448fd9e8-a4947eea-1280.jpg

Kyatto , 22 days ago

I've noticed a large influx of them on lemmy recently too.

LinkOpensChest_wav OP Mod , 22 days ago

I've noticed the same. It's pretty consistently been a problem on certain instances, but they're even finding their way here now.

ursakhiin , 22 days ago

My only criteria for the 2020 Presidential general election was not actively trying to divide the country and not trying to make enemies of our allies internationally. This became the case because all of the candidates I actually wanted didn't have the support.

I still feel Biden is much better than Trump in those two areas. Is Biden good? No. It's he actively trying to destroy things? Also no.

LinkOpensChest_wav OP Mod , 22 days ago

Are you defending Biden? Do you find his lies acceptable? What about his bolstering of border fascism? More people deported than under Trump? His colonial approach to Latin America? Is that acceptable? His failure to close the torture camp in Cuba? His support for mass surveillance? His literally making a genocide possible? Which marginalized groups are acceptable for us to throw under the bus? What would cause him to lose your support? If not all the lies and atrocities he's committed, then what?

To me, he seems like a politer Trump. He's giving the fascist party everything they want.

Nawor3565 , 22 days ago

What would cause him to lose my support? Having a better alternative that actually has a chance at winning.

LinkOpensChest_wav OP Mod , 22 days ago

"I don't care about all that suffering, death, and oppression of marginalized groups as long as my fravorite candidate wins"

Rbnsft , 21 days ago

But He isnt his fav.. He is just a tiny bit less shit than trump.

LinkOpensChest_wav OP Mod , 21 days ago

More immigrants and refugees imprisoned and deported than under Trump (I'm not making this up, his secretary of homeland security Mayorkas has bragged about it)

Supporting Israel's genocide

Urging people back to work during a pandemic (and other ableist policies)

Extending our surveillance state

Continuing the oppression and genocide against Native Americans

Signing queerphobic bills

And other examples which I'm not going to outline here because this is not a debate community, and it is assumed you know of these things before engaging here to avoid having to trot all this out over and over again

"But at least he can be swayed, unlike Trump"

He can? I've seen no evidence of this, and I've seen even less evidence that his Democratic supporters are willing to criticize him, much less take any meaningful action to move him left. In fact, I've seen people going about on lemmy itself saying ridiculous things like "he's the best president we've had in 50 years" -- in the midst of a genocide.

I'm not saying it's not true that he's better than Trump, but he's also doing everything Trump would want and more.

If you decide to vote for Biden, then fine, but we're not continuing this discussion. You are not allowed to support fascism and genocide here, and praising Biden is an example of doing so. That user was breaking the rules.

BakerBagel , 22 days ago

A better alternative won't be able to win if you keep enabling the shitty options.

bobburger , 22 days ago

Never mind, just saw what community this was.