Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Finally, some legislation from the middle of the country that makes sense.

But also:

Mexican style sandwiches

That's what a Torta is!

moody ,

Both can be true.

variants ,

So is a taco a torta?

HikingVet ,

Is a poor boy a philly cheese steak?

moody ,

Sandwich is the more generic word. So a torta is a sandwich, and so is a taco, but a torta is not a taco, and a taco is not a torta. Both of them are specific types of sandwich.

Just like a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.

Bahnd ,

RADICAL SANDWICH ANARCHY!!!

TOASTER STRUDEL IS A SANDWICH!!!

StaySquared ,

Does the Indiana judge know what a Torta is? Does he not realize that there's... actual sandwiches (there's like 7-8 different sandwiches). Tacos and burritos are NOT sandwiches.

I'm Latino, not of Mexican origin. However, sometimes I prefer their sandwich over any other dish. And I normally would buy two of them.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

But is a quesadilla a sandwich?

StaySquared ,

Technically it's a grilled cheese sandwich, right?

But getting into technicalities:

According to Merriam-Webster, a quesadilla is a sandwich if you classify a tortilla as bread. A sandwich is defined as "two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between" or "one slice of bread covered with food". A quesadilla is made with a tortilla and cheese, but the tortilla does not contain a leavening agent and therefore cannot be considered bread.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

but the tortilla does not contain a leavening agent and therefore cannot be considered bread.

I have to disagree here. It is unleavened bread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleavened_bread

I'm surprised Merriam-Webster doesn't know that.

StaySquared ,

Nice find!

banana_lama ,

Idk man I consider wraps as sandwiches

StaySquared ,

True. Arabic wraps (chicken shawarma for example) are considered sandwiches.

KillingTimeItself ,

this is definitely an indiana activity.

That much i can confirm.

trolololol ,

I read Indiana Jones. That's all I camr here to say.

Goodbye

Flies away

slowwooderrunsdeep , (edited )

Aside from the discussion about whether the taco or burrito constitutes a sandwich, I think the judge made the correct ruling. The retail agreement says no “traditional fast food” can set up shop in that mall, and specifically cites drive thrus and outdoor seating as the reasons.

The strip mall owners probably don’t want businesses taking over common sidewalks or creating more traffic than the shared parking lot can handle. So long as they don’t have those, I don’t see any reason a Mexican food place can’t fit entirely into the leased space.

E: also based on their website this place looks bangin

Daft_ish ,

KANGAROO COURT!

Bahnd ,

We need to bring in experts on this matter. Someone summon Guy Fieri.

Sam_Bass ,

They might be in indiana

Thcdenton ,

Indiana is fuckin stupid

leftzero ,

Preposterous. Burritos are calzone.

slowwooderrunsdeep ,

By that logic, cupcakes can be multiple things depending on how you eat them.

If the cupcake is whole and frosted on top like how they’re normally served, you have toast. But if you rip off the bottom and turn it upside down and place it on the top, it is a sandwich. If you inject the frosting into the middle with a piping bag like an unemployed donut maker, it becomes a calzone.

What I’m saying is cupcakes are valid options for all meals of the day.

leftzero ,

What I’m saying is cupcakes are valid options for all meals of the day.

Exactly! Q.E.D.!

Bruncvik ,
@Bruncvik@lemmy.world avatar

This tuling was passed due to a contract obligation to open a sandwich store. These cases are ueually related to regulations. Kind of like when an Irish court ruled that Subway subs are cakes, so higher VAT and sugar tax would apply to them. (In all fairness, the sugar content in the Subway "bread" is several times higher than the max allowed for bread.)

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

This is just so some NIMBY tools can't ban a burrito place from going into a space that was oddly defined to practically mandate a subway restaurant or other sub shop that isn't explicitly fast food.

Furbag ,

We already have the Cube Rule of Food Identification Unifying Theory. Tacos are Tacos. Burritos are Wraps. These guys need to get with the program. We base our food taxonomy on the specific arrangement of carbohydrates like civilized people.

cjoll4 ,
@cjoll4@lemmy.world avatar

Most participants in this debate are far too preoccupied with the shape or structure of the sandwich, to the point of neglecting what a sandwich is all about. It's simple. A sandwich is when you use bread as a handheld base for prepared foods that would otherwise be too messy to eat with your fingers. A tortilla is a flat bread, ergo handheld burritos and soft tacos are sandwiches.

"Then why isn't pizza an open-faced sandwich?" Because pizza has a crust, not bread. When you take raw dough and bake it along with its toppings or fillings, it may be a pie or a pastry or a pizza or a casserole or some other category I don't care to quibble over. It's not a sandwich.

Obviously there are many sub-categories of sandwiches. A dish isn't necessarily excluded from being a sandwich just because it's also another type of food.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Is a tortilla bread or is it a very floppy cracker? We may need adjudication.

cjoll4 ,
@cjoll4@lemmy.world avatar

Crackers are crisp and brittle by definition. "Floppy Cracker" is an oxymoron (and potentially a good name for a garage band?).

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don't see you wearing black robes or holding a gavel.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

What about a wizard hat?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don't know, are we judging whether or tacos belong in Griffindor or Hufflepuff?

hobovision ,

Would a tostada then be a floppy cracker fried crisp?

No, crackers are a type of bread. Tostadas are cracker versions of tortillas. Corn tortillas are whole grain flat breads.

Pupusas and tamales are like his pizza example where the masa dough is cooked with its fillings. But those are both types of dumplings, which would make pizza an open-faced dumpling 🤔

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Sandwich: 🥪 (two disconnected slices of bread cut from a larger loaf 🍞)

Wrap: 🌯 (one continuous flat bread)

Burger: 🍔 (a halved bun, therefore it's also Chicken Burger, not Chicken Sandwich)

Taco (🌮) feels like belonging broadly in the wrap category being based on flat bread.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I'm sending the cops over to your house right now.

Fredselfish ,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

It's worse then that. This all because people didn't want Mexican restaurant in a strip mall what the fuck is wrong with these people?

reattach ,

Is a sub/hoagie a sandwich? Bread is usually connected.

Oh God, why did I get involved

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

It's not two slices of bread from a bigger loaf, so no.

putty ,

those poor sandwich shop owners are all going to go out of business when they hear the news

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

those poor sandwich shop owners are all going to go out of business when they hear the news

Yeah, with that hard competition by taco stands...

jimbolauski ,

If it is, then a hotdog is a sandwich and that's just nonsense.

homesnatch ,

No kidding... a hotdog is clearly a taco.

titter ,

But tacos traditionally are more like wraps by your definition, with the exception being hard/crunchy tacos which are on what i would technically call a chip, this making crunchy tacos just portable nachos

Additionally walking tacos are supported by a chip bag, making them neither a taco nor nachos.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe I'm doing injustice here but I've always thought of soft tacos as a lazy wrap.

affiliate ,

from a topological perspective, wraps and tacos are two different beasts.

in a wrap, the bread completely surrounds (and encloses) the other ingredients, so theres a 2-dimensional hole involved (which basically means the inside is hollow).

in a taco, no such wholes are present.

you can also distinguish sandwiches from tacos and wraps (since sandwiches involve two pieces of bread, like you said). but unfortunately, you can’t topologically distinguish a burger from a sandwich

NucleusAdumbens ,

Hmm, what of rolls? Ciabatta, Kaiser rolls? Even croissants? By this definition it seems they'd be burgers, since rolls are cut in half. But then my roast beef sandwich is a lying, cold, sad burger

woelkchen , (edited )
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

You have weird Ciabattas if you think that Ciabatta is a kind of bun and not a bigger loaf. Croissants are pastry. And yes, burgers made with Kaiser rolls are totally burgers:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7a/a3/1c/7aa31c21b7b0f546ea7ebe4ac0a59b12.jpg

Akareth ,

Hamburgers are a specific style of sandwiches whose name is derived from Hamburg, Germany.

Chicken sandwiches are not hamburgers.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

A chicken sandwich is a sandwich when the chicken meat is between two slices of bread cut from a bigger loaf. It's a chicken burger when it's between two halves of a bun.

And as you said, hamburger derives from the German city of Hamburg, so Germans, not Americans, have the authority here.🤪

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