gamingonlinux ,
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OpenAI say it would be 'impossible' to train AI without pinching copyrighted works https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/01/openai-say-it-would-be-impossible-to-train-ai-without-pinching-copyrighted-works/

Ockham ,
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ThePinkHacker ,
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@gamingonlinux then don't…

ChaosSpectre ,
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@gamingonlinux sounds like they dont want to hire people to sanitize the data they are using. Putting the cart before the job stealing horse lol

Datenegassie ,
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@gamingonlinux It's also impossible to burn down OpenAI's headquarters without committing arson

Guba ,
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@gamingonlinux well then just dont train AI, that was an easy solution.

precariousmind ,
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@gamingonlinux pretends to be surprised

InternetEh ,
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@gamingonlinux no shit

fluchtkapsel ,
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@gamingonlinux Actually, your writing is quite competent for a native English speaker. No need to complain about that.

;-)

Flaky ,
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@gamingonlinux For what it's worth, it's because the datasets they use will inevitably contain copyrighted work (articles, posts, websites, you get the idea). I don't think OpenAI are specifically targeting copyrighted works, but the content of the datasets being used makes copyright infringement inevitable.

There's an entire ethical conversation to be had with this sort of mass-scale scraping that goes beyond machine learning research.

lord_tacitus ,
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@gamingonlinux

Like I've been saying for many, many years now: If a company can't operate while obeying the law then they shouldn't operate at all. No corporation has a right to exist, if Facebook can't run their business if forced to moderate their platform, then they should shut down, if OpenAI can't operate without violating copyright then they should shut down.

JoergKlemenz ,
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@gamingonlinux This is possibly the only honest thing OpenAI has ever said.

MartinaNeumayer ,
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@gamingonlinux Well, but it is fairly possible to pay the authors for using their work, isn't it? Is also very easy to ask for an permission to use someone's work, especially commercially.
So why the fuck they don't do that?!
How was that?
You're taking my stuff or using my work = you're paying my bills!
Problem solved and case closed.
But if not, we will see each other very soon in the court.
Simple as fuck!

brenno ,
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@gamingonlinux Companies simultaneously be like "you're infringing my copyright by playing my 30-year-old game for free" and "it would be impossible for us to make a profit without infringing your copyright"

ultrasquid ,
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@gamingonlinux but adobe already did!?!?

draxil ,
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@gamingonlinux Oh well, better scrap it then. No major loss.

doragasu ,
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@gamingonlinux Well, then don't train AI.

lritter ,
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@gamingonlinux to reach my present level of intelligence, i have also "pinched" many copyrighted works in the course of my life.

tuxic ,
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@gamingonlinux ah then fuck them I guess

pettter ,
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@gamingonlinux a) no it wouldn't

b) well so what if it is, then don't?

And to be clear I say this while being a massive advocate for radical copyright reform

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