dinckelman ,

I have zero sympathy for any of the 3878 chumps who wasted their money on this vehicle. They knew exactly what they were getting

Endorkend ,
@Endorkend@kbin.social avatar

Quite a few really didn't.

It's incredible how delusional some of these people are, like Twitch Moderator being 100% convinced Amouranth is going to bang them if they spend enough in her Onlyfans tier delusional.

They are entirely convinced he shits gold and everything he touches is Star Trek tier tech.

dinckelman ,

That’s a whole other can of worms, that isn’t even worth discussing. People like that need urgent psychiatric evaluations

Coreidan ,

convinced Amouranth is going to bang them if they spend enough in her Onlyfans tier

Escort services were invented for people like this

John_McMurray ,

TIL Amouranth is not a obscure metal.band as I assumed.

addie ,
@addie@feddit.uk avatar

That's Amaranthe you're thinking of. If you're a fan of the Swedish metal 'soprano and gravel' sound they're well worth a listen.

SlopppyEngineer ,

He chased away the brilliant people to bounce ideas of and that made that stuff work. Now he's left with a lot of sycophants who just run with every whim. It's the common story for any authoritarian leader.

BruceTwarzen ,

This is unrelated, but for the longest time i thought thatwhen people talked about amouranth, i thought they talked about that mmo streamer with the filthy room and similar name. I was very confused why everyone wanted to bang him and drink his bathwater.

DarkThoughts ,

That's Asmongold. And the bathwater afaik was Belle Delphine. But maybe I missed some stuff, I'm not into that whole Twitch shit.

KaiReeve ,

You never know. Someone could make a time travel movie with it one day and then collectors will pay an arm and a leg for the left door.

jkrtn ,

"Tell me Future Boy, who's President of the United States in 2017?"

"Donald Trump."

"Donald Trump? The fraudster? Ha!"

OutlierBlue ,

"To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.),"

Not washing it could fuck it up. Got it.

"CAUTION Failure to put Cybertruck in Car Wash Mode may result in damage (for example, to the charge port or windshield wipers). Damage caused by car washes is not covered by the warranty."

Also washing it could fuck it up.

TheDeepState ,

What does car wash mode do?

MeekerThanBeaker ,

I don't know about the Cybertruck or its charging port, but cars do have rain sensors to activate the wipers automatically when it rains. Car wash mode likely turns those sensors off to prevent damage to the wipers.

heatofignition ,

It must be something more substantial in this case, tearing the windshield wiper off wouldn't brick the truck

usualsuspect191 ,

Or maybe it does, who knows. It's the Cybertruck afterall

dylanmorgan ,

CRITICAL FAILURE. WINDSHIELD WIPER DETACHMENT DETECTED. PLEASE CONTACT ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE IMMEDIATELY. DRIVING HAS BEEN DISABLED FOR SAFETY REASONS.

seaQueue ,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

FOR ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE PLEASE DRINK VERIFICATION CAN

ArtVandelay ,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

If I saw that on my car, I'm not sure I could restrain the urge to take a baseball bat to it

aeronmelon ,

CYAN LOW, REPLACE CYAN TO TURN OFF EMERGENCY BRAKE.

DarkThoughts ,

Water gets into the body, which lacks fluid drains and accumulates water, which can potentially reach wiring.

space ,

I seriously don't understand how this could be possible. How does the car manage rain water?

Corkyskog ,

I don't think it's meant to be driven in the rain

thurstylark ,

I don't think it's meant to be driven.

I mean... It's not even meant to be a vehicle, tbh. It's an ego trip, status symbol, or virtue signal (pick up to 3) in the form of a vehicle.

The part where it can propel itself and it's occupants from place to place is, in fact, a bonus feature.

reddig33 ,

It folds the mirrors in and puts the car in neutral. Stuff like that.

db2 ,

So things normal people do to normal cars but with extra steps and Elon.

june , (edited )

I’m curious how many menus deep the car wash mode is too

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

?

june ,

Oh boy. I should proof read before posting lmao.

Fixed

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Have you seen other people in a car wash? Park, reverse, drive but they start holding the brakes when the track pulls them along, leaving antennas up, not closing windows, opening fucking doors... A vast majority of the human population is some level of braindead.

Fuck me, I've seen someone pull up into a manual car wash bay, open all their doors, and wash the INSIDE of their car. This was not a washable interior like a Jeep Wrangler or something, it was a typical sedan with carpeted floors and cloth seats.

And these people (theoretically) are licensed to drive, right next to you.

cyborganism ,

Yeah, but the car still ran afterwards.

admin ,
@admin@lemmy.my-box.dev avatar

So did this one, but if you include irrelevant details like that, the headline wouldn't get as many clicks.

cyborganism ,

Doesn't it say that the vehicle was bricked, meaning it wouldn't run after going through the car wash? Isn't that what happened?

admin ,
@admin@lemmy.my-box.dev avatar

Yeah, that's what the headline says. In the article it states that it worked again after a service request and a (redidulously long) reboot.

techt ,

So then it didn't run after the car wash -- unless we're ignoring the mandatory steps needed to get it working again, the headline is pretty accurate. Or are you considering "bricked" a permanent condition?

TexMexBazooka ,

That’s what I think of when I say something is bricked- that’s it fubar, irreparable, fukt, yaknow that kind of thing

person420 ,

It always ran. The owner drove it home, and when they parked it in the garage the center screen started acting wonky (they didn't explain what that meant). All the other screens worked, and the car was drivable, but it's a bit dangerous to drive a Tesla without the center screen since that displays everything (no dashboard screen) and is how you control everything (no physical buttons besides a few on the steering wheel). So the owner did a system reset and the screen didn't turn back on after the estimated "two minutes".

The next day they called the service station, but then went back to check on the car, everything was working. Basically instead of taking 2 minutes to do a hard reset, it took over night. The service station said this was a known issue and it would sometimes take upwards of 4 hours.

This headline is massively misleading. Hell, the article itself was massively misleading. The owner said something like "I thought it was bricked" on social media and the author just ran with it apparently.

cyborganism ,

Ah ok. So it is click bait.

cyborganism ,

Bricked is a permanent condition. And if they were able to get it working again, I wouldn't say it was bricked. More like broken or crashed in the software sense.

Still, it wouldn't run after the car wash either.

I meant more like, even if you wash a car with the doors open and water goes in everywhere and damages the car, you can still turn the key and it will start.

admin ,
@admin@lemmy.my-box.dev avatar

Other people have already addressed the main issue here, so I think you're sorted there.

But yeah, I consider "bricked" a permanent condition - something broken beyond repair, so it's as useful as a brick. See also "paperweight".

What do you think it means? Temporarily unavailable?

techt ,

Yeah I got the impression it was a recoverable condition after a search found a bunch of guides for "unbricking" (Android phones). Semantics are the true enemy it seems

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Read article

something15525 ,

Also locks the charging port, turns off the AC, locks the doors and windows. Still nothing that should prevent the car from breaking in a car wash....

Also, upon reading the article, seems like the car was fine after a reset, it just took 5 hours. Didn't have anything to do with the car wash it seems.

space ,

But what if there is heavy rain? Are you supposed to put the car in car wash mode then? Why wouldn't those things be sealed all the time?

something15525 ,

Car wash mode always is the solution.

limitedduck ,

I believe it also closes vents

NotMyOldRedditName ,

It does

heleos ,

FYI you're supposed to remove all that from normal cars too, it's not good for the clear coat/ paint

Wogi ,

They could have solved this with a layer of clear coat.

Without that, every single one will eventually patina.

Riven , (edited )
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

To be fair patina looks cool on certain things, I just wouldn't feel comfortable with it on any loving object, who knows what it could damage.

Edit: err um I meant moving not loving. Unless?

Agrivar ,

... with it on any loving object

Come again?

jkrtn ,

I bet they meant "moving" but it is a funny typo.

blusterydayve26 ,

It’s a $6000 upcharge. I think you have to make an appointment for it?

Caligvla , (edited )
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It's worse than that, washing the car even in wash mode will damage the car because the fucking thing is made out aluminum stainless steel, you know, a mineral that corrodes if exposed to water long enough. It's mind boggling how badly designed this car is.

Edit: sorry, confused my minerals there.

too_high_for_this ,

Neither of those are minerals.

rigatti ,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

There's a few things wrong here. First, it's made of steel, which is iron and not aluminum. Second, neither of those is as mineral. Third, aluminum has pretty good corrosion resistance in terms of metals.

None of that is to say that Tesla had any idea what they were doing when designing this monstrosity.

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

jesus christ marie, they're alloys!

Caligvla ,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I'll pretend I understand there's a difference. :)

JasonDJ ,

Breaking Bad. Macho man starts collecting minerals. His wife (Marie) refers to them as rocks. He ends up shouting something similar.

BlueJayOakerson ,

I think Macho man’s ends up shouting “snap in to a slim jim” but I could be wrong

phoneymouse ,

What if it rains?

SkaveRat ,

Fucks it up

net00 ,

Reminds me when foldable smartphones first came out. If you touched them wrong the screen got fucked.

masquenox ,

It was an expensive brick before the car wash, too.

umbraroze ,

Can we just say that Cybertruck is basically a sum of everything wrong with right wing wackos?

"Look at me, I'm a badass, driving around in a badass vehicle, unlike you filthy libruls. ... Aww shucks! There's road salt! And my accelerator pedal just fell off wtf. ...OH NO! A LITTLE WATER TOO! Anything but that!"

skozzii ,

Oh no, WATER, how did they know it was one of my many, many weaknesses!

themaninblack ,

This is truly the Signs of automobiles

Texas_Hangover ,

I haven't seen Maddox in years! That was a memory trip.

MehBlah ,

You couldn't have predicted that with such a large amount of the planet being covered in it.
/s

XeroxCool ,

I'm amused that liberals bash Tesla for being a conservative virtue signaler by extension of Elon, while conservatives bash Tesla for being an EV virtue signal for liberal tree huggers.

Voroxpete ,

And this, right here, is why Tesla's stock price is down 50% from its all time high.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The craziest thing is it was already overvalued, Elon got "forced" into selling at peak, and then tanked the company he bought with it too. Just unreal clown behavior.

Voroxpete ,

It's still massively overvalued now. Just compare their market cap to any other major car manufacturer.

gmtom ,
@gmtom@lemmy.world avatar

Gold bricks are worth like $750k so its definitely not the most expensive brick.

skozzii ,

Yeah, but someone is gonna buy that gold off you as it holds value , not sure who they'll be able to trick into taking it off their hands as it'll be worth a sack of potatoes.

TheFriar ,

You’re telling me gold doesn’t immediately diminish in value after you move it a few feet from where you purchased it?

frezik ,

I'm going to blow your mind: it's also capable of being run through a car wash.

TheFriar ,

Woah. Move over, Mercedes, Audi…other luxury car companies…FERRARI! That’s one.

From now on, I only drive Gold.

zaphod ,

People pay money for actual bricks, I say we stop this brick-shaming.

pwalker ,

Found another article analysing this incident and how unlikey it is that the car wash itself caused the screen brick and that Tesla screens generally can run somtimes into those errors and resetting it ususally worked in other Teslas:
https://cleantechnica.com/2024/04/18/whats-going-on-with-the-tesla-cybertruck-that-wouldnt-work-after-a-car-wash/

uebquauntbez ,

So Cybertruck goes 100% Elon now? ... turns into world's most expensive brick ...

thr0w4w4y2 ,

*prick

0Xero0 ,
@0Xero0@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, so Car Wash mode has to be on while driving in the rain also?

inclementimmigrant ,

Not even a water issue.

The advisor said that "it is a known issue in the Cybertruck that when you do a screen reset, instead of resetting in the standard two minutes, it takes five hours."

This is crappy and lax software testing and verification testing.

RecluseRamble ,

What even is a screen reset supposed to be here and why would you have to do it? Asking as a pleb conventional car driver whose screen just turns on and off with the car automatically.

inclementimmigrant ,

It's just like in my model 3 or my wife's Teluride, the info screen/software can lock up or get stuck in a weird state and both have a way to reset it.

Normally neither would be a big deal, I push a button(s) and the screen goes black, it comes back up, again no big deal but at least with the Teluride, there's a the instrument cluster and heads up display to show your speed. I'm assuming the cyber truck is like my model 3 where the speed is only shown on the center screen. If it take's five hours over the minute of downtime, well that's going to be a problem. That said, in my model 3, I've only had to do this a handful of times on my model 3, mostly because the radio isn't working and only once on the newer Teluride because the map was stupid.

RecluseRamble ,

Oh, so an actual reset button like on a PC! Its existence alone is admitting that the firmware is shit. An embedded system should never freeze.

But admittedly, most car infotainment systems freeze/crash occasionally nowadays. Mine as well but it went with the Microsoft BSOD "solution" and restarts automatically.

nxdefiant ,

Yeah, most infotainment systems hide their memory leaks behind the fact that when you turn the car off, you reset the computer. Not so in an always on EV.

inclementimmigrant ,

So I'll push back and state that infotainment systems aren't embedded systems, more akin to a phone OS with the wide array of UX applications.

But yeah these infotainment systems are often left running on newer cars for connectivity and other features and just like any other OS, leaving it up and running is going to slow and get unstable over time for to memory usage.

Like I said, mostly not a big deal unless you're a Tesla and critical information is there and you didn't regression test properly.

kerrypacker ,

My $200 Chinese android system doesn't.

echodot ,

Jesus I thought the software on my ford was bad. And it is bad but it doesn't randomly stop working for no reason and have a reset button to fix it. It just doesn't break.

foggy ,

That'll be 80k, 100k.

NikkiDimes ,

Which is incredible considering Tesla's software is typically considered their strong point. This is just a train wreck.

NeoNachtwaechter ,

So, it would block the exit of that car wash because it's playing dead and sulking?

Then you need to ask some random people to help you push it away to the side, and everyone gets a good laugh ...😅

brlemworld ,

It's almost like they make a Fisker Ocean or a Hummer EV

HeavyRaptor ,

Would you even be able to move it? You'd have to put it in neutral first so you can attempt to push it but good luck with that if it's bricked. I know electric cars generally shouldn't really be towed either (a few meters might be okay but I'm not sure).

NeoNachtwaechter ,

You'd rather reimburse the car wash company for two hours of that unusable place?

UntitledQuitting ,

How are there so many things wrong with this vehicle? Like a total recall for the accelerator pedal sounds like the least of their concerns when the car can be bricked by a reboot and the exterior isn’t allowed to have bird shit on it unless it’s removed immediately.

I mean, I know why. But how? Aren’t vehicles massively regulated? How did any of these make it off the production line?

ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

Vehicle regulations are typically only for emission standards or exhaust loudness. For the most part as long as the vehicle can do the speed limit there's very little regulation on the matter.

Gestrid ,

You're forgetting the annual safety inspection required in most US states. That'll catch stuff like brakes wearing out, taillights and headlights that need to be replaced, and other stuff.

ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

That's never happened to me in my life. The only time the state ever "inspects" my vehicle is if I've already been pulled over for something like my exhaust

Gestrid ,

I did say "most" states. I used to work at a car dealer's service department, and I've seen some cars come in where they don't have a state inspection sticker because the owner just moved from a state that doesn't do state inspections.

Because of that job, I've also seen stickers from other states that do do state inspections. Most of them will be on the windshield either in the bottom corner on the driver's side or in the bottom center. They'll list a month and year as numbers (ex. 8 and 24 for August 2024) for when the inspection sticker expires.

So, at least in my state, someone with 8/24 on their sticker would at least need to drop their vehicle off at a mechanic (not necessarily the car dealer, just a mechanic authorized to do state inspections) by the last day of the month. If the mechanic doesn't do the inspection until the the beginning of the next month, that's fine. You'd just get a sticker that says 9/25 on it when they're done.

ThatWeirdGuy1001 , (edited )
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

I mean conceptually that sounds fine like our vehicles should be inspected to ensure proper maintenance. The only problem I can see with that is poor people like myself.

I've gotten ticketed for having a loud exhaust because I was a pizza delivery driver and our cities roads are so bad doing the speed limit will total your car. I didn't have the money to fix my exhaust which is what I told the officer who basically said "Now you'll have even less money" before handing me the $150 ticket.

I need a car for work (I don't work pizza anymore but still have a 30 minute drive) just because one aspect of my car isn't up to code doesn't mean I don't still need my car to get to work.

Gestrid ,

The only problem I can see with that is poor people like myself.

The state inspection in my state costs a set, predetermined amount. The mechanic legally cannot charge more than that amount. (I think it's about $10, but I could be misremembering. It's somewhere around there, though.) If anything doesn't pass inspection, that's where the cost can come in. How much it costs depends on where you get the thing fixed.

In my state, if you car doesn't pass inspection and you choose not to get the thing repaired right away so it does pass (maybe you don't have the money right away, or maybe you want to bring it someplace cheaper to get it fixed), you're given 30 days to fix it, regardless of the original expiration date in the sticker. They replace the inspection sticker with a special "state inspection rejection" sticker that says by what date the inspection is due. At my old job, I used to see plenty of people come in on the last day of the month knowing their car would fail inspection. They came in to get that 30 day extension.

just because one aspect of my car isn't up to code doesn't mean I don't still need my car to get to work.

Generally, inspections don't take too long to do, though that can vary depending on where you bring your car. They usually won't take longer than 24 hours, though. For me, they're usually done either within a couple hours of bringing the car in (if I bring it in early enough) or by mid-morning the next day (if I bring it in in the later afternoon or evening). So I could bring my car in after work on the day before my day off, and it's pretty much guaranteed that it'll be ready by about 10am the next day the next day (or end of day if they find something wrong, depending on what it is).

When I was working at the car dealer, customers waiting in the lobby would typically have their car ready within a couple hours, and customers who had alternative transportation would usually have them done by the end of the day with enough time for us to call the customer and for the customer to come by and pick up their car.

This definitely isn't the case everywhere, but the dealer I worked at also gave out free loaner cars for customers to use depending on the circumstances (ex. did the customer have an appointment) and availability (ex. do we have any loaner cars available right now). Customers just coming in for a state inspection wouldn't typically get one, but, if there was something that didn't pass inspection, then we might set them up with one if we had one available and if the customer wasn't able to wait any longer.

Tl;dr: In my state, getting a state inspection is usually relatively painless. The inspection itself doesn't cost much, but the cost of fixing something so it passes inspection depends on where you go. There are also ways to get extensions if you need them, and, if you plan ahead, you can usually get your state inspection done on your day off without any problems. Even if there's something that'd cause it to fail inspection, it's usually still done the same day.

JudahBenHur ,

how brave of you! are you a soverign citizen also?

SkaveRat ,

Depends on the local laws. It's not road legal in the EU, for example

ElmarsonTheThird ,

Even if it were, it weighs 3,4 tons empty. Most EU Citizens have drivers licenses that allow cars up to 3,5 tons max. weight, including driver, passengers and cargo.

It's impossible to use in the EU without an actual truck driving license.

Dasus ,

"Truck driving licence" is rather simplifying it.

There are carious degrees of licences between B (up to 3500kg) and a "proper" truck driving licence, CE, which allows you to operate actual full combination trucks.

C1, one above B is basically a van licence, and that's up to 7500 kg and up to eight people. This is a fairly common licence.

I myself have a C licence, which was also very common to drive when I went through driving school, and it has no weight limit. I can drive a truck of any size, but I don't have an "actual truck licence" in the sense that I don't have the CE licence nor do I have the professional licence for a C sized truck. (And I can't drive buses, those call for a D licence instead)

So basically something that exceeds 3500kg but isn't a professional vehicle is the only thing my C would be useful for. B class licence is certainly more common, but C and especially C1 are still plenty common.

Woht24 ,

That'll change when EVs begin to dominate the market, they all weigh considerably more than their ICE counterparts.

coarse ,

Do you guys actually use commas instead of periods for decimals?

hOrni ,

You don't? Honestly, I never thought about it. I use them interchangeably. Most programs I use, accept both signs. But comma is the standard.

hOrni ,

Thank god. At least I won't die of cringe after seeing this on the streets.

Sam_Bass ,

Did they hire former boeing engineers?

mannycalavera ,
@mannycalavera@feddit.uk avatar

Carwash mode? U wot M8?

🤣😂.... God bless these clowns for making me laugh.

the_third ,

Probably prevents auto engagement of the parking lock and emergency breaking which would result in damage when the car gets dragged along the chain drive in the car wash. At least that's what that does in my car.

Passerby6497 ,

....so carwash mode is just fancy neutral?

the_third ,

Dunno, for my car it is a bit more. No automatic wipers, no automatic braking and it prevents the parking lock and the parking brake from engaging.

Schmuppes ,

While that explanation of yours is helpful and comprehensible, the whole thing seems stupid to me. But then again, my 1999 Golf has none of those features and I wouldn't want them either.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

"You wouldn't wash a car!"

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