AA5B ,

How about we make it clear to us legacy automakers: you have a head start in the us, you have protection from dumping … get your shit together. You have like two years for BYD to build a factory in Mexico and scale up for export. This is your final chance. Use it or find out you’re no longer “too big to fail”

homesweethomeMrL ,

Can we please have affordable electric vehicles?

“No. We have affordable electric vehicles at home.”

The affordable electric vehicles at home: cybertruck-on-flatbed.jpg

werefreeatlast ,

Nah ah! The cybertruck can be placed on things other than a flat bed! I know for sure it can be on a flat bed that also has lots of rocks! I've seen it placed on the side of a mountain. You could in theory pull it through the toughest terrain you can imagine and expect that some of it would still be attached to your cable. It's such a versatile vehicle!

Cincinnatus ,

So now Biden wants to implement the same policies that he criticized Trump for putting in place...Sounds about right

Viking_Hippie ,

And his fan club are working overtime trying to justify it by employing xenophobic tropes such as "beholden to China" and falsely equating Chinese EVs with the Uighur genocide.

They're even calling anyone who opposes this Trumpian tariff anti-union and in favor of Americans losing their jobs! 🤦

Cincinnatus ,

Hey, if the shoe fits...

Viking_Hippie ,

What do you mean? Didn't we just agree that it doesn't?

Cincinnatus ,

Obviously not

disguy_ovahea ,

It’s so ironic that the same crowd that wants US businesses to divest from Israel loves to defend trade with China, who is actively committing genocide of the Tibetans and Uyghurs, while threatening invasion of Taiwan. Pick a side. Money or morals.

alcoholicorn ,

Native Hawaiian life expectancy was 76 before covid

Uhyghur life expectancy was 75 before covid

Where is your genocide?

More Tibetans speak Tibetan and Uyghurs speak Uyghur than Hawaiians speak Hawaiian so you can't claim teaching mandarin along side their native languages in schools is cultural genocide.

Also the moral thing is the thing that doesn't cook the planet; solar panels and EVs displacing coal and ICE engines.

jmcs ,

Genocide is not killing people, it's killing a culture/ethnicity or displacing from the area where they live. Technically you can commit genocide without killing a single person.

disguy_ovahea ,

Exactly. Like how Russia has abducted 20,000 Ukrainian children to raise as Russians.

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

China segregates the Uyghurs in internment camps where they are abused, raped, and tortured and all under constant video surveillance. There have been reports of sterilization as well. The only way out is through forced social integration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps

China has committed genocide in the form of cultural cleansing of Tibetans since the 1950s. It’s a peaceful nation, primarily composed of Buddhists. That’s what all those “Free Tibet” bumper stickers are all about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization_of_Tibet

The behavior is not new, so it doesn’t get the attention it deserves.

alcoholicorn , (edited )

lmao that article cites Adrien Zenz and a guy who works for the department of defense.

Anyone can just go to Xinjiang, there's not even travel restrictions.

Regarding Tibet, it was a slave-owning theocracy before the 50s. Your "cultural cleansing" is the liberation of countless peasants at the expense of the former ruling lamas.

If the people wanted their masters back, they wouldn't have lynched the lamas the CIA trained and armed and air-dropped into Tibet in the late 50s (kinda like Bay of Pigs, but dumber).

But once again, they're far more able to practice their culture than the indigenous people in America. I don't see any air force bases or pipelines poisoning the aquifers in Tibet like you see today, right now, in indigenous communities in America. I don't see Sioux people learning primarily in their native languages in public schools in America. They do in Tibet though.

Why is it that you cry endless tears about the breaking of the slave system and teaching mandarin as a second language on the other side of the planet, while an actual, ongoing genocide of native Americans continues right in front of you?

disguy_ovahea , (edited )

Here are some more for you, from the US Holocaust Museum, World Without Genocide, the BBC, and John Oliver to lighten the somber mood.

https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/countries/china/chinese-persecution-of-the-uyghurs

https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/genocide-of-the-uyghurs-in-western-china

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

https://youtu.be/17oCQakzIl8?si=MocfTnUAGwTeQlm5

The ethnic cleansing agenda in the occupation of Tibet by the PRC has been recognized worldwide, as well as by the UN, who will not intervene due to Tibet’s status under international law. Just read up on it.

https://savetibet.org/advocacy/united-nations/un-general-assembly-resolutions/

https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/genocide-of-the-uyghurs-in-western-china/china-tibet-and-the-uyghurs

https://stopgenocidenow.org/conflicts/tibet-autonomous-region-china/

https://hir.harvard.edu/chinaintibet/

https://www.atc.org.au/notonourwatch/

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240308-exiled-tibetans-guard-heritage-from-cultural-genocide

The only place you’ll probably have trouble finding information on these atrocities is TikTok. Something tells me the algorithm will fail to promote the content.

TechNerdWizard42 ,

You're never going to win an argument with an American who gets their news bites and doesn't think. Genocide in China sounds bad so it's pushed on the news. Forcing economic slavery upon your own people in the USA? Free market baby. Oh but when that free market tries to do good things like cheap electric cars, then we need protection.

When the US wants an iPhone, or television, or paint for their walls, Genocide is OK.

LostWanderer ,

Chinese Electric Vehicles could press the laggards in the USA to innovate in the space! No wonder they are so desperate to regulate Chinese Electric cars to death…

Nougat ,

I keep trying to point out thatr capitalism and free markets are different things, but nobody seems to get it. This is an excellent example.

Capitalists - owners of capital - want to make certain markets less free in order to protect their personal interests.

maynarkh ,

Ambivalent.

CaptainSpaceman ,

Bad.

remotelove ,

Good.

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