danc4498 , (edited )

It’s a shame that liberals expect so much more from their candidates. It leads to a party that gets fractured and just hands the win to Republicans.

Considering our country already gives Republicans a head start with the electoral college, gerrymandering and the senate structure, this fracturing makes it even more difficult for liberals to win.

2016 did so much to screw over liberals. Not just with the president, but with the senate and statewide elections. I honestly believe liberals won’t survive another Trump presidency.

Edit: and Supreme Court… Dems should have had a 5-4 advantage if they just voted for a shitty candidate. Now we will likely be in the minority there for decades.

aesthelete ,

Dems should have had a 5-4 advantage if they just voted for a shitty candidate.

I was there voting for the shitty candidate in 2016 and everyone else was blabbering about emails and how Trump could never win so why bother voting?

Edit: In 2024 the same morons are blabbering on about genocide Joe and encouraging people to vote for third parties and shit here on Lemmy.

Username02 ,

"Why bother voting" is the reason Trump gets into the office the first place.

danc4498 ,

Ti honestly believe the disapproval of Israel will be what gets Trump in office this year. Which is ironic cause he supports Israel even more and is even more antagonistic towards Iran. He moved the embassy fully validating Israel and invalidating Palestine.

Also he ended the Iran nuclear agreement for no good reason then attacked a high ranking Iranian official right before the pandemic started. He would be all on board with world war 3.

bobburger ,

It really boggles the mind. Conservatives are single issue voters, and they show up so their shitty single issue gets a huge amount of attention from candidates.

Progressives are all-issue voters, meaning if a candidate doesn't support ALL of their issues then the progressive stays home. As a result, candidates pay attention to none of their issues and progress is slow.

Progressives also view voting as a moral issue, i.e. if you vote for Joe Biden you're literally committing genocide and all the bad stuff that happens while Biden is president is your fault. In the same breath they'll tell you how helping Trump get elected by suppressing the vote isn't their fault and somehow absolve themselves of the moral implications of a Trump presidency.

No one slows down progress as much as progressives.

danc4498 ,

Amen.

shikitohno ,

Surely, not punching left hard enough has been the one thing holding back liberals from winning. Remember to really get your hips into it if you want to beat Trump this time.

Meanwhile, nobody makes excuses quite like liberals. You give them warning months in advance that they're fielding unpopular candidates with policies many Democratic voters don't support, and when they lose, liberals come out to go, "It's everyone else who's wrong, not me."

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

The neat part is that they don't even need to get the most votes to elect a president. They have the advantage of low population density, which means their votes count for more.

Yay democracy.

Savaran ,

I mean in that particular example it’s specifically a limit that was put on our democracy. Which is to say, make sure your state joins the national popular vote compact if they haven’t already:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

That's not the only example. The Senate and House also give low population density states outsized influence. So we'll end up with a popularly elected president thwarted by an undemocratic congress. Oh, and senates at the state level have the same problem.

The entire system is fucked and I've given up thinking it's going to do good things. I've been burned too many times.

Lucidlethargy ,
@Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

More like "yay fuckery", since this is obviously not democracy.

The electoral college is fucking draconian.

go_go_gadget ,

Almost like withholding our labor is the only option left.

Texas_Hangover ,

Oh no! Less dog walkers and internet forum moderators? How will society get by??

go_go_gadget ,

You realize minimum wage workers are propping up the economy with their labor right? Are you educated enough to understand that?

Texas_Hangover ,

Not only do I inderstand that, I'm also educated enough to earn more than minimum wage.

go_go_gadget ,

And yet here you are simping for the capitalist class.

cabron_offsets ,

Trump grabs pussies.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Sick I get to do my joke for the nth time

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votes 3rd party

hark ,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

Do you not think it's odd that republicans have such dedicated voters while democrats have such non-committal voters? Why do you think that is?

Dagwood222 ,

As late as 1980s, the GOP had a Liberal wing. Once Reagan got his claws firmly embedded the Right was able to marginalize or remove them.

There's an old saying in US politics; Democrats fall in love and GOP fall in line. GOP will vote for any candidate with an R next to their name, and the Dems want someone they can get excited about.

Ellecram , (edited )

I will never vote for any republican as long as I live. Haven't done so in quite a few years.

xionzui ,

Wild speculation: republicanism only exists as a cult created by the propaganda of a political party. Of course one of the core tenets of such a cult would be voting above all else. The Democratic voters are all the other, non-cult members who don’t have any such religious fanaticism about voting

TropicalDingdong ,

Republicans pursue the polices of their voters like rabid dogs.

Democrats barely put effort into the policy positions they're elected on and even then will always settle for half of less.

thesilverpig ,

I suspect it has something to do with the collapse of the new deal coalition and the rise of neoliberal economics such as trade deals meant to gut unions, finance and media consolidation, and ending the welfare state...

But I'm just a blue collar boy... what do I know?

dogsoahC ,

They look like a parody of themselves.

cabron_offsets ,

They look like diabeetus.

Harbinger01173430 ,

Democracy is the government of the people, by the people, for the people...but the people are retarded.

  • Some enlightened human a few years ago or something, I forgot his name.
tegs_terry ,

Sounds like Carlin

Flyswat ,

That's what happens when you restrict higher education.

bellly ,
@bellly@lemm.ee avatar

I believe it was osho who said that

A real cult classic lol

TorJansson ,

People usually get what they deserve, unless they deserve what they get. I sure hope the young ones all fired up (and rightly so) about the situation in Gaza also come to realize that by withholding their vote for Biden, or voting for a 3rd party candidate without a chance of winning, they are guaranteeing that Trump will take office, and if they think things are bad now, just wait till he starts (or rather continues) dismantling democracy. Then they will never have free speech nor the right to protest again.

go_go_gadget ,

Ok Boomer.

jaemo ,

Sounds like someones hankering for some delicious shiny boot leather. Kissy Kissy pucker up!

go_go_gadget ,

Hey does Biden plan on blocking the rail strike in his next term?

absentbird ,

At least he pressured the rail companies into giving the workers what they were asking for. How do you think trump would have handled it?

go_go_gadget , (edited )

They were fighting for 15 sick days. How many sick days do they all have?

And you didn't answer my question so I'll assume your answer is "Yes Joe Biden will block another strike if he is reelected."

I don't vote for strike blocking procorporate trash.

absentbird ,

They got seven paid sick days, which is the compromise Bernie suggested.

Seven is pretty average in the US. I've never worked somewhere that gave more than 10, and frequently had to make due with five per year.

go_go_gadget ,

All of them got 7 sick days?

Also since you still haven't answered: Biden plans on blocking a strike in his next term. Biden is a strike blocking piece of shit.

TorJansson , (edited )

How original, I am devastated

go_go_gadget ,

Don't worry, you will be once you start to see how your generation will be remembered in history.

TorJansson ,

Yes, we shall see, won't we? For you, too.

go_go_gadget ,

The fact you have any confidence Boomers are going to remembered as anything but a dog shit generation is crazy to me. You all have systematically removed every benefit you ever enjoyed. There is no version of history which remembers you well.

At worst history will remember millennials as not doing enough. But I would much rather be remembered as being weak than being a bully.

TorJansson ,

Mighty broad brush you have there

taiyang ,

I mean, statistically, a few will probably die of COVID or from drinking bleach, etc., before November. I swear their death rates have gotta been one reason for retaking congress in 2020.

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Ha, maybe.

Still all the more reason to get out and vote; let's not let it get too close for comfort (again).

taiyang ,

I'm already voting, and not even as an anti-trump vote. I've literally benefited from one of Bidens tax credits and he's openly pro-union, which is rare for any dem (corporate sponsors being more lucrative).

It's a minority opinion, but I don't think he gets enough credit for the good domestic policy even if some of it doesn't "stick" (like the EV credit being mostly Tesla lol)

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

The guy on the left looks like a mid 60s Spider-Man villain.

flicker ,

He's dressed like a brick wall.

Has he never seen The Wall? Makes me want to spray paint lyrics on his stupid ugly fashy suit.

Everythingispenguins ,

What should we call him? Brick Suit, Wall Man, The Brick Layer...

Here are all the others as reference

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/60213/visual-guide-all-37-villains-batman-tv-series

cucumber_sandwich ,

Bill the wall, obviously

cucumber_sandwich ,

Bill the wall?

Cpnlecounte ,

First thought is Les Claypool as an end of level boss in super Mario Bros underground level

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

So this is what oxygen deprivation looks like

athairmor ,

That’s a lazy explanation for shitty political views. It completely ignores the lead poisoning and fetal alcohol syndrome mixed in there, too. Not to mention the inbreeding.

soba ,

They really do view politics as team sport. I mean just look at how they dress and present themselves in public. If they can't make a show of their trump worship there's probably no point for them. They don't care about policy or ethics or making their lives better, they just want daddy trump to smash a homerun over the left wall and beat them libruls.

QwertzOne ,

It doesn't matter, if people are old or young. Problem is that far right is gaining support over the world, enemies are actively using propaganda and bribe our politicians and we ignore wealth inequality, which lets most wealthy people to override democracy. We either somehow deal with that or future will be really tough for all of us.

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

But you should also vote and not just give them the win.

go_go_gadget ,

People who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries gave Republicans the win.

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

What is with the brick suit?

I should say too... roll back the clock 20 years to these bitches mocking John Kerry for getting wounded in Vietnam:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0a9305aa-6b52-4cf3-b69d-66114ad2797f.jpeg

Hobbes_Dent ,

I think it’s-a-me, MAGArio.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Wait so if they’re the brick, can we smash them? I’m down to stomp some goombas.

ptz OP , (edited )
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

What is with the brick suit?

Had similar question. I guess "build the wall"?

Possibly "🎵 He's a brick...HOUSE. Mighty mighty, just letting it all hang out🎵" ?

Hard for me to get into the mind of some of these characters.

macarthur_park ,

I’m guessing it’s “the wall” that Trump always talks about building

cabron_offsets ,

Cause they’re fucking dumb as bricks.

amzd ,

Haha this guy thinks a two party system is a democracy

ptz OP ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

It's what we got, man. I'm being realistic with my expectations and available options here.

Username02 ,

Are you planning a revolution anytime soon? If not stfu and vote.

amzd ,

I’m from the EU

Username02 ,

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