atomicpoet , (edited )
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Listen, if you’re a white person, and you think you’ve had Szechuan food, you probably haven’t.

Most of the Szechuan restaurants in the USA lack a basic component: spiciness.

I say this because a friend from out of town just went to a Szechuan restaurant in Vancouver, thought it was going to be business as usual, and now he’s doubled over because the spice is too much for him.

He tells me, it’s so bad, that he feels the spice eking out of his pores. 🤣

edmistond ,
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@atomicpoet I went to a Chinese place in Asiatown here in Cleveland last year, ordered the “dry chili chicken” off their Szechuan menu which came with a ton of the little peppers mixed in.

It was delicious, but I HURT that night.

So yeah, totally believe you there, Mexican and Thai don’t bother me that much. 😅

godofbiscuits ,
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@atomicpoet I do know of what you speak. Not a lot of experience, but there's a fusion restaurant in the Mission in San Francisco..."Mission Chinese”. oh my good jeebus what tremendous food.

wa7iut ,
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@atomicpoet
In the words of Fleetwood Mac
🎶Don’t stop thinking about tomorrow🎶

😂

nus ,
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@atomicpoet I am intrigued about what this spice tastes like. I love a good painful hot and find most conventional restaurants to be too mild, and I'm somewhat used to the Thai chili pepper.

godofbiscuits ,
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@nus @atomicpoet aromatic-hot-spicy? ambiently, perfumedly hot/spicy? szechuan peppercorns are like the teensiest briefest hint of what's possible.

atomicpoet OP ,
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@godofbiscuits @nus “Aromatic and perfumedly” is a good description because it seeps into everything. It’s almost atmospheric.

godofbiscuits ,
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@atomicpoet @nus oh good, i'm glad the language was relatable to someone with so much more experience.

atomicpoet OP ,
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@nus See that soup on the right? That’s the best visual representation of Szechuan spice.

When you put this stuff on your tongue, it’s like licking a 9-volt battery. I’m not joking.

nus ,
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@atomicpoet I'm not very good with food identification, but I'm pretty sure that's like 75% Thai chili peppers, just infusing the rest of the sauce with their heat. I don't think I've ever had anything with that many, and a few on their own will already do a lot of damage!

atomicpoet OP ,
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@nus The big peppers aren't the ones you have to worry about. The little peppercorns, that's what will stay with you.

atomicpoet OP ,
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Szechuan spice isn’t like other spice. If you think you can handle it because you like Mexican food, you’re mistaken.

This spice doesn’t just attack your mouth. It attacks your nose, throat, esophagus, stomach. You’ll be on the toilet, and you’ll feel the spice on exit.

I once asked my wife, who is Chinese, why Szechuan spice is the way it is. She tells me that, back in the day, people didn’t have heaters and this was how they warmed up.

LarsFosdal ,
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@atomicpoet It is great! Fortunately, you don't have to choose full nuclear strength, but can get it adjusted to your tolerance level.

atomicpoet OP ,
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@LarsFosdal I wish this were true for the Szechuan restaurants where I live. 😆😅

LarsFosdal ,
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@atomicpoet Oh, wow! Then I understand the challenge!

atomicpoet OP ,
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@LarsFosdal I live in a city with the highest proportion of Asians in North America. Most people speak Mandarin or Cantonese. 75% of people are Asian.

When you walk into a restaurant, they assume you can tolerate it.

LarsFosdal ,
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@atomicpoet Here, there are not that many, so they usually ask if you want mild, medium or strong. The mild feels pretty hot for a Norwegian palate, and medium is barely tolerable for me who like it spicy. Strong is way over my limits.

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@atomicpoet
Ethiopian berbere in the US uses chilies de arbol and so far as I can tell cools the body via excessive sweat.

I'm trying to come up with something mild but with the same flavors since my wife lost her heat tolerance thanks to COVID.

adnan ,
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@atomicpoet @atomicpoet She maybe messing with you. Why would one spice be different from another? Heat is heat.

atomicpoet OP ,
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@adnan “Heat is heat” are famous last words.

adnan ,
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@atomicpoet ha ha. I am aware that different spices are different. For example I am better with green chillies than I am with black pepper. But I always that I tolerated green chillies simply because I loved the flavor. Now I will have to google this phenomenon 😀

RufusJCooter ,
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@adnan @atomicpoet Well, the thing is, it's not just that different spices are different.

It's that spices get processed by your system in the context of the other things that it's concurrently processing.

You're (probably?) not eating raw green chilies on their own, w/o any other spices or ingredients alongside? Like, chicken, or rice, or [whatever]?

Listen: Mexican hot is different from Szechuan hot is different from Thai hot is different from NOLA hot is different from [etc.]

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