hacks4pancakes , (edited )
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Inspector just came to my house and told me not to plug normal household stuff into the new 14-50 NEMA outlet and I have a lot of questions boy I tell you

geofurb ,
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@hacks4pancakes He's wrong; you have to bend the prongs a little, but there's enough electricity for USB chargers and stuff if you make it fit.

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@geofurb this is the best comment, you win one internet and can take a break now

simon_bitdiddle ,
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randomxusr ,
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@hacks4pancakes Did someone try to plug their makeshift meth stove into the wrong outlet?

Amateurs.....

lol

/sarcasm

Cycrev ,
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@hacks4pancakes I discovered the normal 15A outlet on my condo patio... Next the the ac condenser... Does not provide the expected 110v but instead 220.
Blew a few chargers to find that out. Now I make sure everything works up to that voltage. Pondering putting an EU outlet to avoid future folks making the same mistake.

virtuous_sloth ,
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@hacks4pancakes
Synchronicity...
I just bought this:
MECMO 50 Amp to 20 Amp 110V RV Distribution Adapter, NEMA 14-50P to 4 X 5-20R/15R RV 4-Prong to Mutiple Household Outlet w/ 20amp Circuit Breaker, UL Listed RV Generator Distribution Cord https://a.co/d/5RAOaGP

Asymmetricblue ,
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@hacks4pancakes That calls for the label maker, and maybe some fun warning stickers.

nicholashead ,
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@hacks4pancakes I’m not sure if this has been mentioned before but be very careful on the brand outlet they install. Leviton is garbage and will melt/fail.

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@nicholashead not a lot I can do now that it’s installed and being inspected.

nicholashead ,
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@hacks4pancakes I guess true. Just mentioned in case you knew what brand the electrician installed. There’s lots of stories of electricians installing outlets for EVs but they install the cheapest (usually Leviton) outlets and they will fail because they can’t handle sustained high loads. Case in point, my melted/scorched connection here (top right). My Tesla mobile charger luckily sensed the high temperature and shut down.

scotts ,
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@hacks4pancakes just ordered a 14-50 from out contractor. A world of fun awaits!

BradRubenstein ,
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Today in "Behind every warning label there's a story."

@hacks4pancakes

wren ,
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@hacks4pancakes you likely know that 14/50 is driven with a pair of out of phase 120v lines, you can get 4 20amp 120v outlets out of it. And if you're paying a special EV rate for the juice from that outlet it could be a good deal to move loads there.

https://www.amazon.com/S7-Prong-Household-Adapter-14-50P/dp/B08ML1QYQ3/

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@wren alas it comes from the same breaker box as the rest of my house

wollman ,
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@hacks4pancakes Pretty sure they make PDUs you can (legitimately) plug into that. Although maybe it would have to be an L14 rather than a straight-prong.

just_one_bear ,
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@hacks4pancakes did the installer flip the connections for neutral and ground at the outlet? if so, connecting something to that out could get exciting even at other outlets

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@just_one_bear nah it is very nicely installed and clearly not a three prong 120v outlet

just_one_bear ,
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@hacks4pancakes I caught that it was a 14-50. My recollection is that it is a 4 conductor outlet with both the panel hots to the blades right and left, the neutral is the blade directly across from the semi-round ground.

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@just_one_bear yea he was implying not to like plug my Christmas lights into it and ….

dymaxion ,
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@hacks4pancakes
At our old shop on Seattle, we had occasion to install a 15-60P at one point. It was mildly terrifying, as was the mill that plugged into it, which drew 53A of 240V triple phase.

dec_hl ,
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@hacks4pancakes at least they didn’t tell you not to stick the tongue into the outlet 🤣

mensrea ,
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@hacks4pancakes but if you plugged enough normal household stuff into it ...

K3n_5s ,
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@hacks4pancakes Like information, electrons want to be free.

tswartz07 ,
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rmd1023 ,
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@hacks4pancakes But what about my household electric welding rig?

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@rmd1023 I mean I can always take up welding now

rmd1023 ,
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@hacks4pancakes 👍👍👍

wishy ,
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@hacks4pancakes @rmd1023 Using an actual welder, or plugging a hairdryer into the extra spicy electron socket?

kwf ,
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jpsays ,
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@kwf @hacks4pancakes .... ah, its all ok then... :)

[Note, I love the replies to this series. :)]

ZiggyTheHamster ,
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@hacks4pancakes first, how

Second, if you make a 120V pigtail adapter, it would work and be perfectly safe and probably up to code too unless the neutral isn’t connected (which, don’t do that, install a 6-50 instead and use a 14-50 to 6-50 adapter to plug in any device which uses a 14-50 with no neutral)

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@ZiggyTheHamster I mean I don’t have a shortage of outlets

K3n_5s ,
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@hacks4pancakes @ZiggyTheHamster Lesley, I see what you did there. 😂

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@K3n_5s @ZiggyTheHamster I had an audience of one, but it just flowed.

K3n_5s ,
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@hacks4pancakes @ZiggyTheHamster I certainly got a charge out of it. (Shocking, I know.)

topher ,
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@hacks4pancakes

Normal household stuff....like, the clothes dryer or stove that's designed for?

hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@topher no he’s clearly talking about a phone or a hairdryer

gsuberland ,
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@hacks4pancakes oh now that is a warning with a backstory. and a terrifying one at that considering you have no fuses built into power cables to protect the lead.

psycodepath ,
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hacks4pancakes OP ,
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(Clarifying, this is continuation of “installing a 40 amp electric vehicle charger” discussion).

rodgerd ,
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hacks4pancakes OP ,
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@rodgerd this is absolutely sick in the millennial use of the word

GoodNewsGreyShoes ,
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@rodgerd @hacks4pancakes Reading that made my day 🤩👌

"They haven't figured out how to make it illegal yet..." and may it forever evade them.😌🙏✨

bhawthorne ,
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@hacks4pancakes We installed a NEMA 14-50 outlet in our garage. For my spouse’s kiln. We don’t have a basement, so the garage is our workshop space. The cars are relegated to rusting outdoors.

Muddobbers ,
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@hacks4pancakes

Would that even be possible, like.. I kinda want to see this happen now, I wonder if there's a YouTube video

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