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@vrighter @ylai
That is a really bad analogy. If the "compilation" takes 6 months on a farm of 1000 GPUs and the results are random, then the dataset is basically worthless compared to the model. Datasets are easily available, always were, but if someone invests the effort in the training, then they don't want to let others use the model as open-source. Which is why we want open-source models. But not "openwashed" where they call it "open" for non-commercial, no modifications, no redistribution

chebra ,
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"source available" licenses are making the commons MORE ransacked by corporations. Which direction do you want to go?

chebra ,
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@toastal I don't need to compare each license to each other and get lost in wicked little words, arguing with anonymous accounts on the internet. I can instead see which change was a move towards, or away from, a world ransacked by corporations. That is clearly binary. Would you argue that Redis made the world less ransacked by their license change?

chebra ,
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If you find a piece of code in a forum without any license text, and you use it in your software, you could be in a lot of trouble, and not just because the code might be bad. Code without a license is NOT open source, nor public domain, nor free to use, https://opensource.stackexchange.com/a/1721. It needs to have a license that explicitly allows use, modification, redistribution, only then it is open source. You may have seen some "openwashing", someone trying to redefine the term to make them look good

chebra ,
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@OsrsNeedsF2P But that's the problem we need to fix, not the reason to give up. There will be more people on Gitea and Matrix if you try. There is also more people on Reddit and Twitter, yet here we are.

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@tyler So why are you doing open source anyway, if not for the philosophy? You are completely undermining that by forcing your contributors to stick to proprietary walled gardens. Last time I checked there were hosting providers for both gitea and matrix.

chebra ,
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@tyler Also note how you went from "we want projects with users" to "oh it's so hard to provide services to so many users".. at least stick to your argument. One thing is for sure - actively keeping users away from open platforms is not going to increase the users on these open platforms. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Do what you want, I'm just pointing out that you seem to be working against yourself.

chebra ,
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@foosel If that is the case, then how did the choice of using an open-source license even get through? It sounds like you are confusing commercial thinking (we have to get more users, we have to be where the users are, we have to support them, we have to meet the KPIs...) with the open-source. You don't have to do any of those.

chebra ,
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@mormund It's not about the privacy of the code, but the privacy of the users clicking on github and then reading some news. They aggregate behavioral data about you.

> the only thing that can be lost are issues and pull request histories

"Only"?? That's a HUGE problem. That's exactly one of the walls keeping people inside github. Git protocol could distribute that, but it doesn't suit the commercial platform's interests -> go to open platforms instead.

chebra ,
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@foosel But why do you feel like you "have to" do those things? Are you paid for it? Are you trying to sell the project? Are you looking for VC funding? Is someone threatening you if you stop fighting those fights? Those are all things from the commercial mindset, or things exploited by Jia Tan. Of course everybody likes when a project is maintained, good quality, free, but that should come from the cooperation and from the freedoms in the license and platform, not from your personal sacrifice

chebra ,
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@foosel So you want to continue sacrificing yourself? Your choice 🤷‍♂️

Now you are back to believing in open-source, so let's stop sending users to walled gardens, shall we?

chebra ,
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@taladar Discussed in other threads here - forgejo.org is implementing forgefed which will do this, it's a work in progress, monthly reports here https://forgejo.org/tag/report/

chebra ,
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@foosel Saying that I demand maintainers to cater to my requests can be easily disproven by just looking at my words above where I say the exact opposite. Then who is doing their best to misunderstand and turn words around?

chebra ,
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@taladar

"two single points"

Ok that got me, I have no response.

chebra ,
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@taladar Emphasis on "entire system".

chebra ,
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@tyler Did you just break some code of conduct by telling me to F off? For what exactly? Arguing for open source software here on the open source community? Interesting...

briankrebs , to Random stuff
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I would like to be part of a modest democratic experiment wherein we only elect people who really don't want to hold the office, but are nonetheless very qualified and capable.

chebra ,
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@briankrebs The whole field of psychology would immediately be under attack from anyone who wants to get power. They would simply redefine what "psychopath" means. Whoever controls the tests is king.

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rbreich , to Random stuff
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Apple shares lost 10% of their value.

Then Apple announced plans to buy back $110 billion of its own stock.

After that, Apple shares had their best day since 2022.

There's a reason stock buybacks used to be considered illegal stock manipulations.

They should still be banned.

chebra ,
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@rbreich I don't understand. How does this hurt anyone? I'm not an Apple fan, I just don't understand why should this cause any outrage.

chebra ,
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@pelespirit Not complicated at all. Llama is simply not open-source, the text of the license is in direct conflict with the meaning of open-source and any definition of that term.

chebra ,
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@Templa @Cubes

That sounds like a nice protection from accidentally installing unknown black box proprietary code on your computer with access to all your projects.

chebra ,
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@Templa I'm actually using github.com/coder/code-server for that. It's also built only from the open-source parts of vscode, but it is made to run in browser. So I just deploy the docker container with code-server to the more powerful remote machine, and open my browser, where it can be used as PWA so it's almost unrecognizable from a native desktop app.

chebra ,
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@uzay Try Syncthing. If there is any conflict, syncthing keeps the conflicted file, and then keepass is able to merge them, so in the worst case some of your deleted passwords will come back, but you'll never lose any.

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NEW FAVORITE HOBBY JUST DROPPED! Watching Marylanders lose their shit over the mere suggestion of maybe NOT naming the replacement for the Francis Key Scott bridge after the slaver who openly thought of black people as inferior.

Hey Maryland. It's a bridge. Scott took a British song and put new lyrics (including racist ones, see 3rd verse) on it.

How about we all stop worshipping dead assholes?

chebra ,
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@renwillis 😬 quick, edit the last sentence, or the bridge will be called Elon Musk

chebra ,
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in that case you are doing the whole "no-coding" all wrong. If you really need something that cannot be done by connecting the nodes and grouping them in flows, then instead of developing new function nodes, develop your own contrib packages. But there are a lot of existing packages, so maybe you don't need even that.

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chebra ,
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sure, only available to the cool people

chebra ,
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@jnk @Mikina

Legal yes. But sadly not FOSS. The Llama models from Meta are basically "free to use by anyone except our competitors"

chebra ,
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@ReakDuck @circular

If you follow the 3-2-1 backup strategy then this should not be a problem. Backups are an essential part of self-hosting.

chebra ,
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@ReakDuck

> I dont do backups

Well then... there is nothing good coming out of that decision. Good luck, lol.

chebra ,
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It all depends on how much you treasure that 2TB of data. If you cannot afford to lose it, then you don't really have any other option. All I'm saying is that self-hosting and backups go hand in hand. Self-hosting without backups is just asking for trouble. But what you are talking about sounds more like 2TB of old photos, that's not really self-hosting. Just get a second 2TB drive and copy it there. This thread started with talks about password managers and their backups - those aren't 2TB.

How do you handle your passwords?

I rely on Bitwarden (slooowly migrating from... a spreadsheet...) and am thinking of keeping a master backup to be SyncThing-synchronized across all my devices, but I'm not sure of how to secure the SyncThing-synchronized files' local access if any one of my Windows or Android units got stolen and somehow cracked into or...

chebra ,
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@not_amm And I think Keepass (XC) has a merge function which can very easily resolve these conflicts.

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Behold the pyramid scheme known as cryptocurrency mining. Man allegedly consumed $3.5 million of computing resources from Amazon and Microsoft to generate $1 million worth of digital coin.

The real crime here is all the energy consumed.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/nebraska-man-indicted-multi-million-dollar-cryptojacking-scheme

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  • chebra ,
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    @dangoodin Three things logically wrong with your statement:

    1. do you really believe that 100% of the miners are stealing electricity?
    2. if I buy a solar panel, connect it to a computer with GPU and start mining, is that illegal?
    3. pyramid schemes must be enriching the higher levels of the pyramid, but that's not happening here with mining (all the less if you believe mining cannot be profitable)
    chebra ,
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    @breadsmasher Not OP, but for me, donating by cryptocurrency is about a million times easier than in any other way.

    chebra ,
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    @magic_lobster_party I beg to differ. The medium of payment has always been the bigger problem for me, whenever I wanted to donate. When I found out it can be done through F-Droid Bitcoin button by a single click, I started sending monthly donations to some OSS apps. PayPal is cancer, even MasterCard and Visa are much more hassle (and risk) than Bitcoin, and sending an international wire transaction is completely out of the question.

    chebra ,
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    @CoderSupreme I just discovered that if I pay with my MasterCard, and the vendor saves my card details even against my wish, and then they make a new transaction, my bank is not able to reverse it. So yeah.. I guess I'm never paying by MasterCard ever again.

    chebra ,
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    @TrumpetX Sorry but your two proposed solutions are not available to me, and both would put me at the mercy of big American corporations. I'm not saying crypto is the only way, but all the other ways are either not available in 90% of the world, or not acceptable for anyone a bit privacy conscious. Out of the remaining options, crypto is by far the easiest to use. And no intermediaries necessary.

    chebra ,
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    @magic_lobster_party I mean.. cryptocurrency fans are also regularly bullied to the point that it's a bit risky to even mention my preference. And having a bitcoin wallet costs nothing, so the wikipedia decision must be caused by something else - maybe also more of a marketing thing. The crypto haters caused so much damage, it's really sad.

    chebra ,
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    @magic_lobster_party And yet, here we are talking about the use-case that is best fulfilled by Bitcoin...

    chebra ,
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    @ReakDuck Huh? When was the last time you saw Matrix? These are "spaces" you are talking about, widely supported in client apps. And I wouldn't even see it as the killer feature.

    chebra ,
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    @ReakDuck so why not work on adding those features to Matrix, instead of reinventing the wheel in another closed platform from scratch? The network effect is by far the most important factor when it comes to any chat app, or building a community. Matrix solves the network effect by being interoperable, having bridges.

    What apps would you love to have open-source alternatives for?

    It seems like the FOSS community is continuing to grow, and FOSS apps keep getting better (Immich reallh blew my mind recently), which is a big win 😎 but there are still many apps I use that I would kill for an open source alternative. I am curious what you guys think? Are there any apps you'd love alternatives for?

    chebra ,
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    @SorteKanin I'd like to see that. I have already onboarded about 35 students and my whole family to matrix, nobody had any problems with signup. Bigger problem is later if they get the infamous "Unable to decrypt message" error.

    chebra ,
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    @Hadriscus I wonder if anyone at SolarWinds or Mandiant would notice a 300ms delay. They didn't even find it in June after the FBI contacted them.

    chebra ,
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    @poVoq but that analogy would only work if the government was the only customer, footing the whole bill. More appropriate perspective is looking at how much would they pay if they got the same service from say Microsoft, or Slack.

    chebra ,
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    @onlinepersona Wait, you really think any non-obfuscated javascript code is open-source?

    chebra ,
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    @onlinepersona Are you ok? You wrote that in your book any non-obfuscated code is open-source. But on the internet, any javascript is sent to the browser as text, so as long as the javascript is non-obfuscated (according to your definition), then it fits your statement about being open-source. But that would mean you consider many proprietary codes as being open-source, which is simply wrong. Open-source is a license, it comes with rights and obligations. It can't be just about being readable.

    chebra ,
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    @onlinepersona 🤦‍♂️ ok, that explains everything...

    chebra ,
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    @onlinepersona Please note, by adding the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 to your comments, you are executing your copyright. Do you think copyright is good for you?

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