grumpygamer ,
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After 6 months, I've had to resubscribe to Adobe PS. I work with too many people who send me PS files and there is no alternative that can open and save them reliability. It sad how many "helper" apps Adobe installs and how often they try to connect to the internet. I block them all, but it's scary. I have to unblock them every 30 days. Please do not suggest alternatives unless you know for a fact they load and save .psd files seamlessly. Do not suggest GIMP or I block you.

MatthiasMailaender ,
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@grumpygamer If you threaten to block me again I will block you.

crocodisle ,
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@grumpygamer If you're happy enough with psd to continue accepting them, and people are paying you to work with them, then you could just continue to pay for PS or, ya know, pirate it, since Adobe is perfectly fine with exploiting their userbase.

If for some reason that doesn't sound peachy, SAI and CSP have worked with psd files just fine for me. Obviously if you're looking for specific features that only photoshop offers, you're not going to find an interchange format for those, probably.

Definitely look into different interchange formats than psd though, and if the artists you're working with refuse to send you work in a different format, then... find different artists who know enough about digital art to work with different formats.

Ertain ,
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@grumpygamer It sucks that you have to go through that, Ron. Damn vendor lock-in.

Tracken ,
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@grumpygamer I have had a lot of luck with Affinity Photo when dealing with psd’s, but I don’t know what your exact requirements are.

Zitruskeks ,
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@grumpygamer Affinity loaded and saved all my psd seamlessly. Even with hundreds of layers and adjustment layers. But then, they are bought by canva now so... soon they'll be adobe 2.0

ang_mo_uncle ,
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@grumpygamer not a suggestion, but might explain why there's so few alternatives...

https://github.com/gco/xee/blob/master/XeePhotoshopLoader.m#L108

slowtiger ,
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@grumpygamer My PS installation is a still working CS5 on a Mac born in 2006, which I expect to die in the foreseeable future. I've bought affinity as replacement for all my graphical needs, and so far it does the job. PSD files are opened and exported without trouble, but I haven't tested thoroughly with text layers. The other program importing PSD is TVPaint, a great animation software which likeley is of no use for you.

dev_ric ,
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@grumpygamer as a massive FOSS advocate who's used Linux as a primary O/S for 20 years, and as somebody who's built a career working with designers... I can confirm there's sadly no true Photoshop replacement, sorry. 🤷‍♂️

There are a lot of great tools out there, and I personally do find Gimp (please don't block me 😆) more intuitive for many things, but Adobe are masters of adding regular changes to a proprietary file format and making other tools' importers look terrible. They've won the market.

VModifiedMind ,
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@grumpygamer Does Affinity Photo not do the job?

kmck ,
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@grumpygamer Try to get them to send you TIFFs. I haven’t found much that can’t be put into a layered TIFF file. I’m sure Adobe is testing the limits, though.

TylerHendrix ,
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@grumpygamer Not a suggestion so much as a question. Is there a reason the people working in Photoshop can't save their files as TIFF instead of PSD?

grumpygamer OP ,
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@TylerHendrix They looks too much info. Text, shapes, etc. It's way to much friction to ask an artist.

JensRestemeier ,

@grumpygamer I had a bunch of psd files that broke GIMP and Pillow - IIRC they used extra alpha channels. I think the psd-tools python package was able to extract the data I wanted, but it was still a pain.

Sh41 ,
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@grumpygamer proprietary closed formats should be banned

crakmaks ,
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@grumpygamer I have yet to encounter a .psd file which does not work perfectly well with https://www.photopea.com/

And I’m talking about extremely complicated texture files with dozens, if not hundreds of layers and lots of masks and adjustment layers.

Maybe give it a try, if you haven’t checked it out before.

paoloredaelli ,
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@grumpygamer
Adobe is quite like and or

FreiGuy86 ,
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@grumpygamer this is why I'm still sitting on a copy of CS6 lol. The subscription model is just gross.

moz ,
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@grumpygamer ImageMagick can save PSDs to other formats, including exporting separate layers. I've only used it as a command line tool though, not sure about the GUI experience.

SonnyBonds ,
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@grumpygamer I uninstalled it the other because even though I have a subscription from work I don't really use it.

I wasn't logged in, and had to log in to be able to uninstall. 🤯 Had to download a separate uninstall program to get rid of it without logging in.

tstehle ,
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@grumpygamer Since you're a Mac user, you probably know Pixelmator Pro, right? As an Ex-Photoshop user it's a fantastic replacement for me (even uses many of the same shortcuts), it can import and export .psd files, and it's a onetime pay:
https://www.pixelmator.com/pro/

seaside ,
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joethephish ,
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@grumpygamer yeah :-( I have decades of muscle memory for PS yet I’d be willing put in the time to learn other tools to avoid Adobe. But the lock-in from exchanging files with others is the thing that would make the attempt pointless. I wish there was a way out!

Tahma ,
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@grumpygamer Affinity Photo (2) by Serif. Buy once and use all you want.
With Affinity Designer also a very good vector based program.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/
https://affinity.help/photo/English.lproj/index.html?page=pages/Appendix/fileformat.html&title=Supported%20file%20formats

saint11 ,
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@grumpygamer I literally cancelled my subscription today (they increased the price again?!) Currently I'm winging it with Affinity + Clip studio, but I then don't have anyone sending me .psd files, which is much easier. But yeah, currently, I don't think there's any real alternative.

jschwart ,
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@grumpygamer am I the only one reading Adobe PostScript when seeing Adobe PS?

mjibrower ,
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@grumpygamer Thank you for that last sentence. 😄

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