parismarx ,
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The AI boom requires massive data centers that consume enormous amounts of water and energy.

Tech CEOs have plans for hundreds more hyperscale facilities in the coming years, but activists around the world are fighting back to protect their communities and force us to ask who really benefits from the future Silicon Valley is building.

https://disconnect.blog/ai-is-fueling-a-data-center-boom/

ariaflame ,
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@parismarx The only possible way this would work is if they paired them with things that needed that excess heat, so they wouldn't use other sources of energy for the heat. Like the distributed ones being used to heat swimming pools in the UK. But honestly, it's a lot of investment to give grifters a way to cheat people and students to cheat on their assignments and the web to be filled with even more inaccurate information

WHYAREWEALLCAPS ,

@ariaflame One thing they could do(or be forced to do) is pipe heat to a nearby town or city. Then that heat could be dumped into giant heat loops. That would then be used to heat low income homes and homeless shelters. If there's excess left over, use it to heat municipal buildings. If still more is left, use it to heat residential buildings.

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bomengidsnl Bot ,
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@parismarx @julie3dharris should be priced seperately by law with a very high price per joules it uses
All it corporations should be coerced by law to make their energy usage for services public
All energy money corporations pay for should be invested in wind energy and the like in equal amounts.
So if pays 1 billion for energy for its ai services, it should invest 1 billion in wind energy that same fiscal year.

gimulnautti ,
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@parismarx What was is about trusting billionaires?

Yesterday’s friends often become tomorrow’s enemies. Next up is Sam Altman, who is already proposing that powering up his vision machine artificial intelligence is SO IMPORTANT, that humanity should take up geoengineering to guarantee his machine learning data centers are guaranteed evermore increasing power.

Arthur_500 ,
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@parismarx

Where does energy come from?

If we use Water, Wind or Solar it is either used or wasted.

If we use other forms of energy, it is generated at a certain level and anything not used is wasted.

Who cares is a data center consumes energy?

Water may be used but it doesn't go away. So the water cooling equipment is simply recycled.

PJ_Evans ,
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@parismarx
Data centers should be required to use renewable energy source. At their own sites.

LewisHarrington ,
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@parismarx Bitcoin costs 2% of American electricity.

sneaka ,
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@parismarx you're not wrong of course, but did you drive your car to get coffee today?

https://www.ase.org/blog/coffee-gives-us-energy-how-much-does-it-use

parismarx OP ,
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@sneaka i don’t drink coffee and i don’t own a car 🤷

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