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I am against animal agriculture for the same reason I am against sexism, racism, ableism, classism and homophobia.

The circumstances of a creatures birth does not dictate what it is “meant for”, every one deserves to live happy, healthily and with dignity, but some simply want to live.

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inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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You sound like qAnon, no matter what is said, you can always just say it's deepstate trickery.

inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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😂 😂 😂

The convoluted techincal logicistics of why it's not gay and precisely when it does become so is silly. The answer is that yes, doing sexual acts with someone of the same sex/gender meets the common definition of being gay. But gay and straight are just words used to self identify. Humans are way dynamic than trying to cling to these arbitrary labels. Having a threesome has zero impact on you telling a potential partner that you are gay/straight because you're interested in them.

Labels are important and helpful, but we gotta remember they are just words that can't define the sum of a human not accurately catch the essential essence of any single person. So it's healthy to recognize their limitations, trying to precisely define what is and isn't gay just feels like cope so you can keep calling yourself straight. Just do it, this doesn't matter.

inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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Well, that is is true. This sort of nuance, understanding and acceptance would absolutely be lost on someone so outwardly bigoted. Everyone, and especially MoL essentialism about what IS and isn't normal is just so sad and misguided.

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  • inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    But tbh I think that if we take the original trilogy, the Rebels are cleary fighting a reactionary imperialist power, ie. an analogy to the Vietnam war

    Lucas was very explicit that this was always the intent. It's not reallt subtle honestly, asymmetric jungle freedom fighters fighting wealthy imperialist?

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    What's weird is that I have never interacted or read the comments to thus sub. So idk, whatever, I'm a cliche. But its evidently a common take, so feels super random that people got so weird about it, I went to sleep with this comment +10 and sorta suprsied that it got flagged for deleting because of downvotes.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    little bit deep into Star Wars lore.

    Oh sure, that makes sense. I guess this is an perspective thing and you're welcome to call me a huge dork. But idk, just feel like basic media literacy if you watch the whole series. 😂

    What do you think of the term "short king" as a term that's supposed to champion body positivity for men?

    Body positivity is such a strange concept to me. There's efforts to reclaim words while simultaneously calling them bad if used as an insult. Ideally, people wouldn't be offended by someone describing their body with common descriptors, but socially there is so much value attributed to certain body types that it's almost...

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Body positivity" is garbage. People should be honest and support healthy lifestyles

    Feels like you are falling in to the same critism trap that catches "Pride" events, lots of people say that they can be proud of lots of things, not nessecarily an indentity or sexuality.

    But pride is more about not feeling shame for things you can't control. Body positivity is about way more than overweight people, but being happy of who you are regardless of any stigma.

    It's not my place to say people should like "short kings", I truly couldnt care less about individuals liking or disliking a given term. I just feel your reasoning would be better built upon infantalizing without attacking people that are fidng zen outside of unfair cultural stigma.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    It bothered me in high school but I found out shortly after it really doesn't matter that much if you carry yourself confidently.

    Which is accurate and admirable, but for those still in high school feeling bothered, wouldn't the population of the term help them get to your head space faster? Terms of encouragement are a lot more valuable to the vulnerable than the secured.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    It sorta feels like you're either saying "dude your shortness is so impressive that I'm jealous" which doesn't make sense because that's kind of a strange thing to be proud of

    It's not something to be proud or ashamed of, it's just a physical trait that says nothing about a persoms charcter. But tons of people feel less than or are mocked for these sorts of intrinsic traits. Consider queer people, "Pride" events aren't about being proud of a sexuality/identity. It's refusing to be shamed in the face of cultural taboos and social stigma, it's about self love and acceptance than showing off something others should be jealous of.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan , (edited )
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    It's super ironic that you are the top comment in THIS thread.

    Hi again, you assumed that I thought deep fakes worked off magicly making nudes and just didn't understand the technology of aggregation as opposed to listening to the ways that women are being blackmailed and harassed by it. And that even if deepfake is exponentially faster and more accessible, it's nothing new or different than drawing a picture of someone naked, even in the age of social media

    Instead of actually listening you were arrogant, dismissive and hostile. You are the man in this comic. You are the person who is not harmed by deep fakes, so it's not a real problem.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan , (edited )
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    And the very next thing you said was...

    Imo as these become widespread, we’ll inevitably reach a point where nudes simply don’t matter. If anyone can create a nude of someone else with next to no effort in seconds, then a nude getting “leaked” would have next to no impact or relevance.

    So yes, you apologized for assuming I didn't understand what I was talking about, but you then double down ignoring the harassment I was bringing up. I'm not interested in discussing any part of this with you, we already have gone round and round. I was just shocked, amazed to read you today and had to highlight your lack of self awareness in saying

    “I’ve never experienced it so you must just be imagining it”

    Harassment of women with deepfakes has no impact or relevance, because hostility to women only has no impact or relevance to you.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Literally today, but I bet your mom appreciated the unexpected chocolate last month.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    I wonder how many people stop scrolling and went...

    "Shit."

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Huh. I had no idea, neat!

    TIL <3

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Agreed, but we need to remember the bar for that particular honor is underground.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    I'm shocked and disappointed, but not surprised.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Dudley was set to start a new internship today at the San Francisco AIDS Foundation, Aguilar said, and had been looking forward to an upcoming wedding and friends visiting from out of town next week.

    “He was so excited about being a part of that,” Aguilar said. “I know this man … there was no indication of this.”

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    American eugenics sought to solve poverty by forcibly sterilizing the poor. The only reason it fell out of favor was the great depression when suddenly people who were once employed decided that maybe this wasn't fair now that they were about to be sterilized.

    Which ties back in nicely to WW2, I unfortunately have to give some of the lawyers at the nunumberg trials praise for arguing "How can America sit in judgement of Nazi concentration camps when eugenics has been established legal by the Supreme Court?"

    Anyways, economic eugenics is coming back in fashion thanks to NIMBYs that just can't stand to see the results of treating the basics to life as commodities.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    I clicked the link and was really surprised not be on the onion.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    Oh no you're not. I edited it in immediately after I saw your comment but then got busy irl and didn't have time to reply until now.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    a feminist who posted a rage bait question

    You should read the link up top, because it sounds like you're making a lot of assumptions. It wasn't a rage bait at all, but a response to video of taunting a bear in the woods about how taunting a man would be more dangerous.

    And then it turned in to a bunch of different people discussing variations of the scenario.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    And you're WILDLY underestimating the rates of bear attacks versus rape, murder and assault.

    One out of six women will experience some sort of sexual assault, versus about 40 bear attacks per year. A bear is predictable, it will mostly just go about its business, but a man that knows we are alone in the woods?

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    Haaaa! Love it! ♥

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    Holy shit...

    Wtf is wrong with you? Go to therapy.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    Unorthodox, yet valid!

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    confess to being a monster

    Your words, not mine. This isn't about admitting anything, but understanding the lived experiences of women. You are literally acting out the meme here.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    No, it seems that your point is that women should not talk about their reasons and fears about being alone in the woods with a man they don't know if it makes random men in the comment section feel attacked.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    There is no winning! All the "not all men" and "that's misandry" dorks show up every single time a woman warns others to be careful around strangers.

    As always, what women think needs to be filtered through what any random man can stand to hear. Women can't discuss even their physical safety if it hurts a man's feelings.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    You're literally saying death is better than men.

    That is LITERALLY wrong. Absolutely not what I or women are saying.

    Women in this thread seem to think otherwise which is mind boggling.

    🙄🙄🙄

    Just forget about the man for a second...she would pick death? What?

    You are changing the premises so you can feel insulted by it.

    It is safer to be in the woods with a random bear, than a random man. Not WOULD RATHER BE ATTACKED BY, its that the statically speaking the bear is probably going to mind its own business, while a man who knows we are alone can seek us out. Women feel that a random man is more likely to cause harm us harm, than a bear existing in the woods.

    You're entirely missing the point of the discussion.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    ragebait scenario

    Actually read the link.

    does not like being compared to wild animals

    Literally not what is happening.

    Y'all in such a rush to be so personally offended you aren't actually caring about what is being said.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    And then tons of guys decided that women talking about their fears of being alone in the woods with a strange man was an attack on men and now are calling the entire discussion misandrist.

    There is a long rich tradition of women discussing the effects of sexism only to have it be dismissed as sexism by men. Similar to critical race theory, white people being upset about the discussion of racism.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    Racist incest bullshit.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    Blah blah blah.

    Feminism destroys the family. You're talking points are straight out of the the 40s.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    Because it's an easy answer. They would rather misrepsent the hypothetical and try to change the discussion instead of actually grapple with the reality women face.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    Jesus you actually believe that you are making a point. That's so sad.

    There is going to be a day, and it's gonna come sooner than you think, that you will look back and feel ashamed you once acted like this.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan OP ,
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    🙄

    Tell yourself whatever makes you feel the most persecuted I guess.

    people fantasizing about me being a predator

    Literally no one has said that. You're the only one placing yourself in the place of a predator. Like seriously, how hard is it to understand that this is how women feel about being isolated with men they don't know and not ALL MEN EVERYWHERE or YOU SPECIFICALLY.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    But did Netayahu condemn Hamas while getting them funds?!?

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    The advertisements for the game didn't mention it at all. But as soon as the game starts I was like "Wait is this Whidby Island"?

    Which actually kind of backfired on me since for work I had to regularly drive through Whidby late at night. Some of the games monsters were hard not to think about alone at 3 AM. 😂

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    If that's what the devs said, sure. But the game does literally start with you taking a ferry to an island which always see very whidby/orcas/san juan.

    But I'll admit to my bias, I was driving through whidby at night on a regular basis when I played the game so they always seemed linked to me.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan , (edited )
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    Full hair and makeup, sparkly dress that shows a lot, go to a trendy bar with my friends and get blackout ass drunk without worrying about protecting my drink all night and knowing I can walk home by myself.

    In the morning I would nurse the hangover while ordering the biggest ass teddy 🐻 bear 🐻 that will fit through my door as a memento.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Virtue signaling. It's important to them that everyone knows they don't care.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Jurgis recollected how, when he had first come to Packingtown, he had stood and watched the hog-killing, and thought how cruel and savage it was, and come away congratulating himself that he was not a hog; now his new acquaintance showed him that a hog was just what he had been-one of the packers' hogs. What they wanted from a hog was all the profits that could be got out of him; and that was what they wanted from the workingman, and also that was what they wanted from the public. What the hog thought of it, and what he suffered, were not considered; and no more was it with labor, and no more with the purchaser of meat. That was true everywhere in the world, but it was especially true in Packingtown; there seemed to be something about the work of slaughtering that tended to ruthlessness and ferocity-it was literally the fact that in the methods of the packers a hundred human lives did not balance a penny of profit.

    • Upton Sinclair

    I read The Jungle a few months ago and its aged so depressingly well. Nothing has changed, it was obvious what was happening long ago, but we've done nothing but watch it get worse.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    it was influential.

    But only on one topic. Yes the FDA was created in large part from outrage over food condtions described in the book. But that really is only one chapter of the text, the majority of it deals with the exploration of workers in ALL sorts of industries (not just food), how preadatory home loans lead to finical ruins, how voting systems are rigged and how our policing system only produces more experienced criminals, not reform.

    The last 2-3 chapters are explicitly socialist talking points that are still being said, for good reason, today. If the book was as influential as Sinclair wanted it to be, then we would've seen FAR FAR FAR more than the FDA.

    I mean, heck, reread the passage I copied in. It's not really about food.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    intentionally exaggerating

    🙄🙄🙄

    You can "uh actually" my phrasing if you really want to, but playing tone police is to miss my actual point how these are long standing and well known problem that Sinclair spoke about extensively.

    If you don't have anything meaningful to contribute to the conversation, it's okay to just keep scrolling.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Jesus. Leave me alone. You aren't saying anything of value. Don't make me block you over this.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    Yeah but that's a different scenario all togther. Not all men are dangerous rapists, obviously. But enough are prone to assault and SA that it's statistically safer to have some random bear (possibly grizzly or teddy) than some random man. If you don't feel like the random guy walking down the street is dangerous, that's probably because random men on the street don't regularly harass you, which is unfortunately still a very common occurance to most women.

    inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
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    I knew you would say that, but seriously, stop and think about how its literally the same situation. There is no reason that Sony would delete data from a customer that might potentially give them money.

    Especially when the data is probably just a handful of MB.

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