smallcircles , to Random stuff
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

Hey, which app allows an to be used as a ?

https://social.coop/@smallcircles/112414539433136490

#❓

tyil ,

@smallcircles

thus far only streams app supports them

Seems to work on .> They can convey meaning well

If everyone agrees on the meaning of the picture, sure, but this is not the case. Various emojis can have vastly different meanings to different groups of people. If you're also going to add in custom emojis this is going to be even worse, you're throwing around emojis that are literally undefined by the majority of the world population.

With your example "boosts appreciated", making a hashtag BoostsAppreciated is clear, concise, and accessible to all. I've never even heard of a dedicated emoji for this, and if you suddenly started to use those I'd have to wonder what you're trying to convey, and use the alt-text to actually get anywhere. Seems like more hassle than just using text in the first place.> They can be used in addition to other textual hashtags

This is true, but do you expect people to just use double the hashtags going forward? One with readable text, the other in image form which you then have to hope works in every context?> textual hashtags [...] aren't always as accessible in their meaning either

Everyone can make "bad" hashtags, but I don't think making the pool worse is going to improve that. If any, it'd make it worse, now people can make bad hashtags with both text and images.> There are cultures around emoji use, that give meaning in certain contexts, and those cultures are part of social fabric and cohesion then

That sounds like a rather big assumption. Are you aware of any cultures that are currently unable to use hashtags, that have a strict need to use basically any image they can think of? To me this sounds incredibly unlikely, especially in the context of the .

stgiga , to Random stuff

I'm glad that my Mastodon instance supports usage of device-native emoji sets so that UnifontEX emoji are usable

silsinn9821 ,

@stgiga Except your instance does not run 🐘, it runs 🦈 (a fork of ​:misskey_mi:​, which itself was developed independently from Mastodon so is not a fork of the latter). If you want a more general, software-agnostic term, then call it a instance.

silsinn9821 ,

@stgiga @youronlyone @youronlyone & talking about history by the way, since the doc itself says it is a living doc, there are a few notable instances not yet mentioned there that were recently developed by high-profile (or at least notable enough for us) Fedi users & might have verifiable links or posts that can give them a place within the doc’s timeline:
( fork) by @noellabo
(a very popular fork) by @Amelia (& others from the @Sharkey project) since 2023
• maybe ( fork?), unsure if it’s notable enough for inclusion or if supported by verifiable links (even I don’t know who created it).
I leave it up to @youronlyone whether certain popular extensions (if not forks per se) like (extending Mastodon) & (extending or modifying ) can be added to the timeline as well.
Also, I will definitely not suggest for inclusion (or even a footnote mention) a certain fork that was given an obscene name by a fringe group of people (let’s just pretend it never existed, OK?) ​:ablobcatknitsweats:​

vsp , to Random stuff
@vsp@mastodon.world avatar

Meet Haai.

They're the mascot for , an instance powered by @Sharkey (cc: @ruud). It's a community of roughly ~120 members, and part of the rapidly growing squad of instances based on this fork.

Haai is also the Dutch word for shark, and also is a homophone for a greeting (Hi!).

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darnell , to News from fediverse
@darnell@one.darnell.one avatar

😂 That was odd! When I mentioned @darnell on my blog, it pinged my account on my iPhone even though is not yet activated (I received a push notification, which later revealed nothing 😆).

If it pings again via , I might do various tests upon other accounts (like & ).

BeAware , to News from fediverse
@BeAware@social.beaware.live avatar

It's such an exciting time for social media.

Fediverse is going near-mainstream due to wide adoption.

Bluesky now "unofficially" federates with the fantastic work of Ryan Barrett's BridgyFed!

Threads has one-way federation and claims to plan to fully federate soon enough.

Flipboard is actively working on Federation, some parts already working!

Nostr is federated using the Momostr Pink bridge which also bridges Threads.

The future of interconnected social media is now. Exciting times, we are in!😁

jupiter_rowland , to Random stuff
@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu avatar

So I've run this poll until yesterday. The question was whether the Fediverse has quote-posts.

20 users voted for yes, 8 users voted for no.

Of course, this poll wasn't representative. I dare say my "bubble" is more Fediverse-savvy than the average, and I know I had quite a number of voters from Hubzilla and (streams). So the result is greatly skewed towards "yes". And still, 40% of all voters thought the Fediverse had no quote-posts.

This shows how well especially Mastodon users know the Fediverse.

Oh, and by the way: The Fediverse does have quote-posts. Just about everything that isn't Mastodon can quote-post, and it all can even quote-post Mastodon toots with next to zero resistance. And in fact, quote-posts in the Fediverse are about six years older than Mastodon.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares

tallship ,
@tallship@tilde.zone avatar

@jupiter_rowland

I'mma just copypasta your hashtag line below ;) Let's not forget, in parlance: - which arguably, might be the most etymologically correct of all of them, since most (at least masto) posts are 'notes', rather than 'articles'.

And in fact, quote-posts in the Fediverse are about six years older than Mastodon

That might be a good tidbit for Yuki to expand upon in his Fediverse history doc at Codeberg ?

@youronlyone and

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syuilo , to Random stuff
@syuilo@misskey.io avatar

Dear Fediverse users

Misskey, a decentralized micro-blogging platform, is in need of financial support.
Misskey is not a business, it is a non-profit, not a company.
The only income for the project comes from your donations.
If you like Misskey, please help us continue to develop it!
https://www.patreon.com/syuilo

Those who donate a certain amount may have their name added to Misskey's credit.

Thank you for contributing to the future of Fediverse!

mima , to News from fediverse

Tbh I'm not enthusiastic about a . Not necessarily because of the or even because it's technically inferior to other implementations (which are both true), but because I cannot be sure if that new fork is going to adopt the same attitude as Mastodon in choking the rest of the with its proprietary extensions and / .

I'd rather not have the uncertainty. Either start from scratch like is doing or help the other two mainstream AP families which are and . That's the only way we can ensure no implementation overwhelmingly dominates the fedi. ​:seija_coffee:​

RE: https://hachyderm.io/users/jenniferplusplus/statuses/112355187216928083

BeAware , to News from fediverse
@BeAware@social.beaware.live avatar

FediTip of the day:

If your profile and posts are set to "public" and you can read this very post, you should have no sense of "privacy" here on Fedi. That means ANYONE can reply.

There's 20,000+ instances and new ones every day, there's NO WAY to tell who is accessing your posts or what they're doing with them.

Fediverse is not some kinda "bastion for privacy" nor is there any sort of "consent" required to see your posts if they are public.

The only way you can be 100% sure that your followers are the only ones that directly see your posts is to make your profile and posts private. Even then, screenshots exist.

Remember, you're on the internet. Once you post it, it's probably not going away. This is true everywhere.

BeAware , to News from fediverse
@BeAware@social.beaware.live avatar

If there were ever a single post that truly shows how running a Fedi instance is, that I could boost to the moon, it's this one.

People still somehow think that Fedi is "opt-in" or "privacy focused" or even "community focused". None of these things are true and I wish more people understood.

It's not a BAD thing, per se. I like it, personally. I choose who I want to interact with by blocking those instances I DON'T want to interact with, but it's OPEN BY DEFAULT is something some people can't grasp.😬

From: @neatchee
https://urusai.social/@neatchee/112347240063479743

grindhold , to Random stuff
@grindhold@23.social avatar

's compatibility problems with the family of softwares ( ) should be a thing of the past now.

dansup , to Random stuff
@dansup@mastodon.social avatar

https://loops.video is a very promising ActivityPub platform for short form video, and could use your financial support to help fund and sustain this initiative!

Donations can be made via @pixelfed

https://pixelfed.org/support-our-project

Let’s build a new TikTok that’s federated and better for humanity! Boosts appreciated!

alcea ,
@alcea@pb.todon.de avatar

@dansup @pixelfed

Uhm...
Any fedi can alredy do "short"

Why is this better ?

PS:
,still waiting for that across to new

And yes:
I will remind youabout this regularly

maegul , (edited ) to News from fediverse
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

I think the and federations pose interesting questions about what platforms can and should be.

Do we actually want blogs and feeds of blogs folded into a mastodon/microblog social feed?

Do we want to read and comment on blogs on mastodon?

Do we want all the diversity of the fediverse fed into a single platform's UI and hope that it works well?

Are we worried that some choices by our platform or instance admin might hinder this process?

I'm rather skeptical.

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mima ,

@maegul

I think the fedi needs to be more about clients/apps than it is currently.

Agreed, and I kinda touched on this earlier about how the should've simply been a frontend where people just use their main fedi account instead of having to create another account for forums in a link aggregator... ​:sagume_think:​

Tbh all the implementations in the first place should've been backends first and foremost. Why should I not be able to have 's frontend in or ? And the other way around too. This does mean that we will have to all agree on a common client API and MastoAPI will dominate, but I'd rather have Mastodon dictate client API than fediverse implementations. ​:seija_coffee:​

RE: https://makai.chaotic.ninja/notes/9s85trbv7h

BeAware , to News from fediverse
@BeAware@social.beaware.live avatar

I said it elsewhere, but I say it here too, I HATE how corporate social media sites have taken SOCIAL out of social media.

Thankfully the Fediverse is mostly taking that back. But if we don't expand to get those that are still on corporate social media to move here, then we'll just become the echo chambers we hate. That's why the Threads integration is a good thing. We need to expand.

#Fediverse #Fedi #ActivityPub #Mastodon #Threads #Meta #Pleroma #Akkoma #Sharkey #Misskey #IceShrimp #FireFish #Lemmy #Kbin #GoToSocial

me , to News from fediverse
@me@mszpro.com avatar

✨Introducing Voice & Video call on the Fediverse ✨

Schedule a call by inputting the other’s Fediverse handles.
Invitees will see a Join button in your invite post to join the call.

  • Calls are done using Peer-To-Peer (private)
  • Encryption (GCM, ECDSA)
  • Use AR Video effects.
  • Works for iOS and Mac.

In the next version, I will add screen sharing!

Download Sora: https://apps.apple.com/jp/app/sora-for-mastodon-bluesky/id6450969760?l=en-US




video/mp4

BeAware , to News from fediverse
@BeAware@social.beaware.live avatar

PSA: Since Threads apparently will be federating replies soon, I thought I should post this again, because there's still a lot of people that don't know.

When a normal user uses "block this domain" it's LITERALLY just a MUTE. The blocked server can still see, interact, and reply to your posts, you just won't be able to see them.

It's kinda like sitting in a room with hungry bears while wearing a blindfold. If you're scared of hungry bears, your best bet is to get out of the room, not put a blindfold on. And by this, I simply mean to migrate to an instance where the blocks are up to your standard on the "instance" level.

Stay informed and make informed decisions, no matter what you choose to do with your Fediverse presence.

#Fediverse #MastoTips #FediTips #Fedi #ActivityPub #Threads #Meta

mima ,

@BeAware is definitely a proprietary extension to by . First added in 2019: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/11269

The main reason other AP implementations have added it (or in the case of , made signing objects enabled by default which was a reluctant decision) as well despite Authorized Fetch / not being documented in the spec is that plenty of big have enabled it for their instances thinking it will prevent harassment from instances they've blocked (despite the fact that AF is purely ), forcing the rest of the to adopt it to remain compatible. Even at the cost of performance (no more caching).

This is plain ol' or for short against AP and the fedi by the Mastodon monopoly, and nobody wants to talk about it because it undermines the narrative a lot of Mastodon admins are putting out to justify their fediblocking of . Would've been fine if they focused on the (real) harms did to Burma for example, that's a totally fine reason to block FB. But screaming EEE just makes me roll my eyes on their . ​:seija_coffee:​

@marta

youronlyone , to News from fediverse
@youronlyone@c.im avatar

One way to promote the is by making the different fediverse software support custom profile skins and themes. This can potentially create an ecosystem of skin and theme creators, which in turn will make more people talk about it.

I differentiate between a skin and a theme because:

  • A “skin” is like changing the CSS of the default layout. Adding an image here and there, new icons, and colours and gradients.
  • While a “theme” can change the layout itself. The widgets available, or shuffle them around. Possible even a way to add custom ones (careful with this though).

Remember the original in late 90s to 2010? etc.?

You can add, remove, and move widgets around. Use custom ones easily. Change colours easily. Change the widths, the columns, and so on. That is a “theme”. There were even third-party frontend packages a developer can use so they don't have to worry much about it.

Skinning is the simplest method; and this was what made popular when it launched in May 2008 (yes, Plurk is as old as the Fediverse network). There was a Plurk skin ecosystem, which in turn increased the number of people talking about Plurk.

Apply the theming feature from the early CMS brands with Plurk's user-level skinning feature, and we create a playground for the users.

and forks already had a good start with their user-level skinning feature (and user-level plugins at that). We just need to see it in the other popular fediverse software.

Make it easier to understand. Write guidelines in layman's terms, not dev terms, and maybe, just maybe, we can spark the interest of new users. Who doesn't want a customisable user profile?

pre , to Random stuff
@pre@boing.world avatar

I plan to close down my / / fork instance and then replace it with new software on the same domain name.

I suspect however that this will break everything and fail to federate properly with the new instance unless the Misskey instance sends what may be known as a "tombstone" message to it's existing contacts so that they know it's disappearing.

Think the problem will be that the private-key associated with the server will change, and so messages signed from the new server will be rejected.

Anyone successfully closed down an instance then bought it back with new software on the same domain name?

Anyone know if it's possible to get Firefish to emit these tombstone messages?

Or maybe backup the private key to be used by the new instance I guess?

Seems like these things will be impossible once the old server is deleted.

youronlyone , to Random stuff
@youronlyone@c.im avatar

Yep, currently, and forks cannot @-tag dotted usernames/webfingers. However, they can find and follow them. They won't be able to reply to them either.

I also replied and added a dotted username from Mastodon (since it works with it) and it appeared like this (see attached).

silsinn9821 , to Random stuff

user with dotted username (an impossibility in vanilla ) spotted in the wild federating with a instance (namely, Voskey)! So, does this mean Misskey can handle dotted usernames & thus can further do what ?

silsinn9821 OP ,

By the way, that account belongs to a small Japanese shop selling online, in case anyone here wishes to buy from them:
@kashi.usuiro@threads.net
(Sadly, it seems you cannot yet directly @ them from as the dot immediately breaks the ping for being outside the instance-domain-name part, so I had to fake the ping here by making it a to their URL.)

youronlyone ,
@youronlyone@c.im avatar

@BeAware

Yep. It looks like a , and forks, issue.

I can't test it from a site though (I just found out today the Pleroma site I had an account, closed down).

@youronlyone @silsinn9821

rgegriff , to Random stuff
@rgegriff@hackers.town avatar

The year is 2028. All major open source projects are fully staffed and funded by multiple competing spy agencies who are constantly auditing other agencies work, implementing features as requested by their respected governments, as well as trying to slip malware past each other.

Paradoxically, opensource has never been more secure, maintainer burnout is at an all time low; and everyone does all work at a healthy pace during working hours.

Wayland even suddenly got good accessibility features implemented when it was realized that it made keylogging tools easier to write

natsume_shokogami ,
@natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world avatar

@clacke @rgegriff @khinsen
Given that had had critical vulnerabilities until Mozilla started to investigate (other popular platforms such as , , aren't even being investigated of security and audited by independent trustworthy third-party), and the fact that Mastodon and its fork have far more Fediverse-enabled users than other non-Threads (not sure about this), non-Flipboard platforms, they are still a valuable targets for government agencies.

pre , to Random stuff
@pre@boing.world avatar

Every single time I've tired to upgrade calckey/firefish there's new dependencies or new build processes or it's grown so much I'm out of memory.

This time there's a requirement for a package I've never head of to enable search which is required and apparently also impossible to install.

So fuck it, I'm giving up.

What is the absolutely easiest to maintain Activity-pub capable system?

No dependencies, no fucking imports, ideally not written in goddamn Node, just run it and it works?

Is there a PHP one. People moan about PHP but it never puts me in dependency hell.

pre OP ,
@pre@boing.world avatar

Hummm.

Though actually I don't see an obvious option to send a Tombstone activity from the Firefish server to notify the network it's shutting down.

Anyone know if it's possible to do that with an unupgradable two version old Firefish server?

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